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re: Vote NO on Thrive Theft UPDATE: All 3 Fail. NO wins!

Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by MsandLa
in the L.P.
Member since Jan 2009
7396 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 1:59 pm to
I have no dog in the hunt but if I did I would vote yes. You seem like a screaming vag

With all the issues going on in BR, library, COA, and mosquito control would not rank up there
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
5984 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:03 pm to
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You seem like a screaming vag


It’s because people mislead and tell half-truths to get people to vote yes. I just want people to have the facts as well. Maybe you like to live with your head in the sand. I don’t. I would call someone like you a dumbass.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29598 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:04 pm to
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You can’t even interpret your own graphic accurately. You just make up shite that’s not supported by your graphic.


That’s rich coming from you.

Some of you refuse to believe the facts even when presented right in front of your face.

Just voted no to all 3 ten minutes ago.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
5984 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:06 pm to
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You can’t even interpret your own graphic accurately.


What’s wrong about it?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29598 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:55 pm to
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What’s wrong about it?


He won’t answer that.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24313 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 4:12 pm to
My lib friends are voting no because they say it's a "St George bailout". I'm voting no because frick Baton Rouge. So I guess we're all aligned here so there's that.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31342 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 4:34 pm to
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My lib friends are voting no because they say it's a "St George bailout". I'm voting no because frick Baton Rouge. So I guess we're all aligned here so there's that.

It mostly means that the average voter hasn’t the faintest fricking idea as to what they are talking about and just do what they’re told
Posted by Mayhem3524
Member since Sep 2025
43 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 4:56 pm to
I no longer live in the slaughterhouse that is Baton Rouge.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35396 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 5:07 pm to
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It mostly means that the average voter hasn’t the faintest fricking idea as to what they are talking about


This is my biggest problem with this plan. Why not pass a millage for the general fund, one for library, another for mosquito abatement and another for the COA? And I feel like there hasn’t been a lot of explanation on the details. I had to do a lot of digging to see that the library tax comes up next year and the other two come up the year after.

I get the reason for it and I’m not against it. I just don’t like the way it’s convoluted and being pushed at the last minute.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
5984 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 5:47 pm to
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My lib friends are voting no because they say it's a "St George bailout".


This is partly and indirectly true.

It’s not a bailout. St George is owed the money.

It’s not technically on the ballot but it will free up money to pay St George.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77481 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:25 pm to
How much money does the library have?
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5043 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:29 pm to
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This is my biggest problem with this plan. Why not pass a millage for the general fund, one for library, another for mosquito abatement and another for the COA? And I feel like there hasn’t been a lot of explanation on the details. I had to do a lot of digging to see that the library tax comes up next year and the other two come up the year after.

I get the reason for it and I’m not against it. I just don’t like the way it’s convoluted and being pushed at the last minute.



It's being done this way because the parish budget is about to be in a tailspin and this is a last ditch effort to prevent a plane crash. Thrive was the best possible option that can be accomplished at this point in time. If Thrive fails it is bad news for the whole parish. I think Sid will do his best to crash land the plane if Thrive fails, but make no mistake - the plane is crashing if it fails.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29598 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:35 pm to
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If Thrive fails it is bad news for the whole parish


NO
It’s bad news for the city of Baton Rouge.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41591 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:39 pm to
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If Thrive fails it is bad news for the whole parish


If Thrive fails, and I think it will, the Library will still have a huge surplus, MARC will still have a big surplus and the COA will have more money than they need.

Taxes will be the same for a short while until the Library tax expires. Then the Library will lose their funding unless they quickly call for another tax election.

Meanwhile, storm water plans won’t progress, the DA will be short of staff and EBR Parish will be hurting.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5043 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:40 pm to
How strange then that all the other mayors and council members support it. Seems y'all elected a bunch of simps for BR city. Or maybe the mayors and council understand the parish-wide financial implications better than you do.


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If Thrive fails, and I think it will, the Library will still have a huge surplus, MARC will still have a big surplus and the COA will have more money than they need.

Taxes will be the same for a short while until the Library tax expires. Then the Library will lose their funding unless they quickly call for another tax election.

Meanwhile, storm water plans won’t progress, the DA will be short of staff and EBR Parish will be hurting.


All correct, but the additional implications I'm talking about are related to the parish budget going forward and inability to pay down debts.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 6:43 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29598 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 6:50 pm to
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How strange then that all the other mayors and council members support it. Seems y'all elected a bunch of simps for BR city. Or maybe the mayors and council understand the parish-wide financial implications better than you do


Good for them.
I don’t really give a shite what they think, or what political party they are.
I’m tired of my money being used to fund a city I don’t live in. I can read and I can see what they are saying they will use the money for and I’m not ok with it (the debt pay down portion, I’m ok with the stormwater and street projects)

The problem with these proposals is that they are promises to use the money how they are saying right now. But the reality is the money is just going into a fund that can be used however the hell they want.
Had they said in the actual proposal on the ballot exactly how the money would be used, which they could have done but didn’t, then maybe I’d be more willing to vote yes on this and help out BR. I don’t want BR to fail or be a shithole. I also don’t want the people that live outside of it to have to pay for their services on top of paying for or own. Not a single cent of parish money should ever be used on the Baton Rouge police department and a good portion of this bailout is for them.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41591 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:18 pm to
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But the reality is the money is just going into a fund that can be used however the hell they want.


And now it’s going into a fund where it piles up and people you didn’t elect spend it on libraries we don’t need, or helicopters.

Or if Thrive passes it will no longer sit there and people who we elected will spend it on things we need or parish debt.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35396 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

quote:

This is my biggest problem with this plan. Why not pass a millage for the general fund, one for library, another for mosquito abatement and another for the COA? And I feel like there hasn’t been a lot of explanation on the details. I had to do a lot of digging to see that the library tax comes up next year and the other two come up the year after.

I get the reason for it and I’m not against it. I just don’t like the way it’s convoluted and being pushed at the last minute.


It's being done this way because the parish budget is about to be in a tailspin and this is a last ditch effort to prevent a plane crash. Thrive was the best possible option that can be accomplished at this point in time. If Thrive fails it is bad news for the whole parish. I think Sid will do his best to crash land the plane if Thrive fails, but make no mistake - the plane is crashing if it fails.


The library tax is coming up and could have been split into a general fund millage and a library millage. That’s where most of the money is coming from anyway. The mosquito and COA tax comes up next year, but that could have been an early renewal and split out the general fund. This feels like they are trying to trick people into voting for money for the general fund by wrapping it in a library fund.

Again, not against it. I just don’t like the way it’s being presented.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41591 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:27 pm to
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The library tax is coming up and could have been split into a general fund millage and a library millage. That’s where most of the money is coming from anyway. The mosquito and COA tax comes up next year, but that could have been an early renewal and split out the general fund. This feels like they are trying to trick people into voting for money for the general fund by wrapping it in a library fund.


Could they have tapped into the surpluses that way?
Would all three entities have agreed to do that?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133384 posts
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:38 pm to
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I’m tired of my money being used to fund a city I don’t live in.

Your hatred of a city adjoined to where you live is irrational. Duly noted.
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