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Vietnam ground forces Vets: Question about Indirect Fires Support.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:26 am
If you were in a unit conducting a ground unit operation, patrol, search and destroy, or just defending a Fire Base, what's your opinion of the responsiveness and effectiveness of the Indirect Fires support provided to you?
I'm particularly interested in how the USMC fared in this area. Naval gunfire support and field artillery support to the USMC are points of interest.
Army, too. How was it?
I understand that a Fire Base would probably have much more organized and effective indirect fire support than a company or battalion on the move out in the field, so, I'm particularly interested in how Indirect Fires managed when called on to support mobile operations.
Thanks.
I'm particularly interested in how the USMC fared in this area. Naval gunfire support and field artillery support to the USMC are points of interest.
Army, too. How was it?
I understand that a Fire Base would probably have much more organized and effective indirect fire support than a company or battalion on the move out in the field, so, I'm particularly interested in how Indirect Fires managed when called on to support mobile operations.
Thanks.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:13 am to Champagne
When I got to Germany my first TC was a ex-Marine artillery man who transferred to the Army. Due was batshit crazy. Anytime we’d do a live fire his hands would tremble and he’s chain smoke his Winstons.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:15 am to Darth_Vader
Probably because he'd seen some shite.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 10:19 am to eScott
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William Marshall
Straight out of Hearts & Minds documentary.
You would swear that it's from Good Morning Vietnam, but it's his interview in the documentary.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:43 pm to saintsfan1977
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Probably because he'd seen some shite.
And done some things, man.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:20 pm to Champagne
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I'm particularly interested in how the USMC fared in this area
My uncle was a combat Marine (Charlie 1/7) in Vietnam in 1968 and 1969. From what he told me, it saved his @$$ more than once.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:54 pm to Champagne
My Dad said it was very effective his first tour ('66-67). Not as effective his second tour ('69-'70) because Charlie has adapted, even though indirect fire missions were much better coordinated.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:57 pm to Lonnie Utah
My dad was in charge of a fire base for the Big Red one near Thunder Road 1969. He talks more about it now than then. My appreciation is that they did a good job of firing upon the coordinates provided, but that the fire was ineffective due to the tunnels/caves. He said they learned later in that most of the ambushes were hit and run (back into the tunnels/caves) as the VC had figured out about how long it took a patrol to call in fire coordinates , have the howitzers directed , and fired. He had a handful of close encounters at the fire base. He said he actually felt pretty safe on Thunder Rd. He felt less safe before they got there when they were closer to the Mei Kong.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:01 pm to Champagne
My dad was in fire direction in Vietnam. He said that with radio communication and accurate spots on the first three rounds they could be pretty deadly. Lot of bad shite happened on the first three, though...


Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:16 pm to Champagne
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in how Indirect Fires managed when called on to support mobile operations.
The battle of Ia Drang showed the successes of Air-Mobile Artillery especially when integrated with the helicopter gunships which at the time were organized as Aerial Rocket Artillery. And this was really the first attempt at implementing these concepts.
The Army made a big mistake in creating the Aviation Branch, worse than the Army Air Corps becoming the Air Force.
LINK
ETA: Not a Vietnam Vet, but spent a lot of time researching these subjects at the Fort Sill Library many years ago.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:31 pm to Champagne
If our front spotter had his stuff together, could be pretty effective, but nothing like the close air support when it got a little hairy. The AC-130 was a deadly site to witness.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:42 pm to tigernnola
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If our front spotter had his stuff together, could be pretty effective, but nothing like the close air support when it got a little hairy. The AC-130 was a deadly site to witness.
I'd love to see Spooky in action, but never want to be in a situation where I'd have the opportunity.
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