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re: Video of Fire At Tesla Supercharger shows it was cause by Ford Mustang driver doing donuts

Posted on 12/18/19 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 1:16 pm to
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When are people going to learn that Tesla vehicles are shite?
Guy in Ford Mustang sets Tesla Supercharging station on fire.

TESLAS ARE shite CARS!!!
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39253 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 2:18 pm to
People complaining about the batteries have not problems doing so while their laptops and cell phones use similar batteries. All while never recycling them as you can easily do
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41902 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 2:37 pm to
Like I said, it's some weird gotcha attempt that infers that people only like or buy teslas to be "green" and some people think it's a good zinger to throw out outdated info about the resources that are used in production.

Those people aren't quite smart enough to realize that the average tesla buyer probably doesn't give a shite about how "green" the tesla does or does not make them.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39253 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 2:50 pm to
It will probably be my next car. I didnt want to spend 100k. 50k give or take some is fine with me. The costs otherwise are pretty low
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16466 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 2:55 pm to
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What happens to the batteries at the end of their life?

Aren't the batteries supposed to last for like 300k-500k miles?
How does that compare to a gas engine's lifespan?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:09 pm to
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I didnt want to spend 100k. 50k give or take some is fine with me. The costs otherwise are pretty low
When you factor in total cost of ownership over 5 or so years with resale value added, a $50k Tesla is more comparable to a $35-40k non-Tesla vehicle.

They have cars that are very affordable.


Cue that Wutangfinancial poster to come in and tell me how wrong I am for propping up Tesla's resale value for no reason other than "just cause"
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39253 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 3:56 pm to
The cost of maintaining it blew my mind tbh
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:02 pm to
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The cost of maintaining it blew my mind tbh
It's so simple, it's ridiculous.

Tires
Windshield wiper fluid
A couple of filters


And that's really it. Brakes don't really come into play as I think it's 150k or 200k miles on those, my car will never see that type of mileage.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39253 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:32 pm to
My friend mentioned battery coolant every 2 years as well. Buying a new truck will be the same as that cyber truck it seems
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41902 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:57 pm to
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Buying a new truck will be the same as that cyber truck it seems



Here we go...
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39253 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:09 pm to
Yes!
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19965 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:11 pm to
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That solar carport looks interesting



For high-tech white trash?

To charge a Tesla with an 85kWh battery pack at the same rate as a standard 240V residential charging station, you'd need a solar panel array more than 60 times the size of the most common residential (1000 kwh/month) PV setup.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:16 pm to
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My mom’s dead. Thanks for reminding me right here at the holidays.


My moms dead to. She’s doing her part by making future fossil fuel.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:50 pm to
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To charge a Tesla with an 85kWh battery pack at the same rate as a standard 240V residential charging station, you'd need a solar panel array more than 60 times the size of the most common residential (1000 kwh/month) PV setup.
Solar panels are NOT an on-demand energy source! Is this not obvious given that they only work during the day, and only at peak output for a few hours at best? If it is obvious, why are you making this absurd comparison?

A typical home solar array coupled with on-premises energy storage (like a powerwall) would charge the car just as quickly as standard 240v from the power company.

But you don't even need a powerwall, and most home solar arrays don't have them, because of net metering. The use-case of a solar carport is for those who want solar but might not have roof space for it. Rather than just wasting land with a solar array, it serves another purpose by being a carport too. Businesses are making heavy use of solar carports, too.

I don't know why you're talking about this ridiculousness of 60X larger PV arrays.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39253 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:53 pm to
Was coming to post this but you did a much better job. I suppose the solar panel roof is not popular around here either.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:09 pm to
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I suppose the solar panel roof is not popular around here either.
I see quite a few solar installs in south LA. Maybe not as many as other places, but you can find them in most neighborhoods.

Then you have people like Clames here who apparently think your panels need to be capable of putting out the max power you will ever use. I guess he plans to sell the excess $6,000 worth of power they will generate every month back to the grid.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19965 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:26 pm to
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Solar panels are NOT an on-demand energy source!



My post was aimed at those that think they are.


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If it is obvious, why are you making this absurd comparison?


You are a moron that flies off the handle anytime somebody dumps a little reality on you and your ilk.

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A typical home solar array coupled with on-premises energy storage (like a powerwall) would charge the car just as quickly as standard 240v from the power company.


No, it fricking doesn't. A Powerwall 2 can't deliver or sustain the power delivery of a 240V residential charging station. You'd need $41,000 worth of them to have the capacity to do what the 240V wall charger can do. Are you so clueless that you don't know those chargers can deliver 7.6kWh continuously?


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I don't know why you're talking about this ridiculousness of 60X larger PV arrays.


Because you don't know anything about basic electrical service and my point flew completely over your ignorant head.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:31 pm to
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You are a moron that flies off the handle anytime somebody dumps a little reality on you and your ilk.




Cognitive dissonance
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31179 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 8:00 pm to
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Are you so clueless that you don't know those chargers can deliver 7.6kWh continuously?


Just to clear this up electrical sources don't supply kWh (kilowatt-hours) continuously you are mixing up terms. Something can provide 7600 watts (roughly 31.6 amps @ a nominal 240v) continuously or 7.6 kWh over some period of time but are not the same thing.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 8:04 pm to
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My post was aimed at those that think they are.
Who thinks they are?
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You are a moron that flies off the handle anytime somebody dumps a little reality on you and your ilk.
What reality do you live in?
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No, it fricking doesn't. A Powerwall 2 can't deliver or sustain the power delivery of a 240V residential charging station.
First, I was intentionally vague ("like a powerwall"), because you were talking about 60X larger solar arrays for charging as if you hadn't a clue such things exist. Second, I only mentioned on-premises storage as an example, and I went on to say it's not necessary to take full advantage of solar panels. I noticed you ignored that part of my post.
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You'd need $41,000 worth of them to have the capacity to do what the 240V wall charger can do.
frick, that's cheaper than a 60X oversized solar array.
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Are you so clueless that you don't know those chargers can deliver 7.6kWh continuously?
I didn't know the number off hand, but who gives a frick? How does that relate at all to a solar carport?
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Because you don't know anything about basic electrical service and my point flew completely over your ignorant head.
I know more about electrical service than the vast majority of the population, and unless you are an electrician or work in a related field then I probably know more than you do. Anyway, maybe your point did fly over my head, because I can't see anywhere that you've made one.
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