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re: Video of Fire At Tesla Supercharger shows it was cause by Ford Mustang driver doing donuts

Posted on 12/18/19 at 5:19 am to
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 5:19 am to
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Ricky Criss


Shake n Bake
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 5:23 am to
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Fire


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Ford Mustang


Not surprised.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 5:31 am to


Looks like a Mustang driver.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:20 am to
When are people going to learn that Tesla vehicles are shite?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54223 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:26 am to
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Add that to the fact that teslas use that fossil fuel derived electricity in a more efficient manner than ICE.


lol link?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31179 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:43 am to
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lol link?


This is something I don't understand from someone with half a brain. Motor and engine efficiency numbers are easy to get. Line losses and charger efficiency are fairly common numbers. If you are concerned enough to bother arguing about it run the numbers yourself. What you will see is the worst-case scenario for EVs have them slightly more efficient than ICE vehicles and the energy costs much less.

Internal combustion engines are fairly inefficient and the older they are the worse it is. All that noise you hear is lost energy. All the heat produced is lost energy. The hydrocarbons you smell in the exhaust are unburned fuel and lost energy.

Of the arguments to make against EVs efficiency is one of the worst.
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
54223 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:17 am to
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energy costs much less


I am sure you are taking into account the cost, refining, utilization of the heavy rare earth metals used in the batteries am I right?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54223 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:21 am to
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Add that to the fact that teslas use that fossil fuel derived electricity in a more efficient manner than ICE.


So you are saying it would be more efficient to burn gasoline to make electricity and transmit it over the grid than use gasoline to power ICE engines?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39253 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 7:43 am to
Musk is claiming he will have a solar option but it only provides an extra 15 miles per day. That solar carport looks interesting
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 8:29 am to
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So you are saying it would be more efficient to burn gasoline to make electricity and transmit it over the grid than use gasoline to power ICE engines?

Obviously you wouldn't use gasoline at a power plant, but yes, it is more efficient to burn fossil fuels at a plant to generate energy, transmit, charge, and use it in an EV, than it is to burn it in a vehicle. Not only are larger heat engines more efficient than smaller ones, but by generating the energy in a central location to power many vehicles, the engine can run much closer to optimum at all times since you are smoothing out the load.
Posted by Crazy Diamond
Member since Dec 2019
153 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 8:39 am to
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Ford Mustang driver

Nothing worse than a Mustang driver that thinks he has a fast car.

Which pretty much sums up the whole lot of male Mustang drivers.

Mustangs are for females aged 16-30.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:00 am to
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What happens to the batteries at the end of their life?
They will be recycled
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 10:01 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:02 am to
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Tell us more about Tesla and their environmentally-friendly lithium-ion batteries and the equally environmentally-friendly way their rare-earth elements are harvested.

Imagine being so naive and brainwashed that you think the producing and driving an EV is more harmful to the environment than an ICE vehicle.
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 10:02 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:03 am to
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People think it’s some gotcha that tesla uses the earth’s resources to produce cars.


No one cares, but some people bring it up in every EV discussion like people give a shite. It’s weird.
Yep

People act like every Tesla drive is out here buying a Tesla to try and save the world and go green. Those folks are very rare, most are getting a Tesla because they're just better performing cars than other cars in their price range.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:05 am to
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So how do you flee a hurricane in a Tesla?
Try to stay with me here.

- You sit in the Tesla
- You press the brake
- You put it in drive
- You drive away from said hurricane


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:08 am to
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And sleep in your Tesla in McComb, MS?
So i'm trying to stay with you now but you've lost me.

People fleeing a hurricane in an ICE vehicle stay in a hotel, but people fleeing in a Tesla don't?

Is there some law I missed where Tesla owners are not allowed to sleep in the same places as other non EV owners?

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Suppose everyone does hop in an electric car and evacuate north. They blow right through McComb and end up... where? Suppose the real range is 300 miles... where is this place full of hotel rooms and electric chargers 300 miles north of New Orleans or Biloxi? Jackson- and where else?

There's quite a few of them but mainly my question would be, why does the Tesla owner have to get a hotel in the city where the supercharger is? I'm not following here.

There's McComb, Hattiesburg, Meridian, 2 in Jackson. And that's just superchargers, there are many other destination charging spots as well, many at hotels where, as far as I know, Tesla owners can stay.
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 10:15 am
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39253 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:35 am to
When I actually researched the charging options I was impressed
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:51 am to
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When I actually researched the charging options I was impressed
Yea, plenty of options.

Most chargers aren't even up on V3 yet(the fastest update) and you still usually only need 10-15 minutes per charge to get you to 80%, which is generally enough to get you to the next supercharger.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41902 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:56 am to
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Strannix


Lmao dude
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 1:15 pm to
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If you paid much attention you would be complaining about cobalt extraction instead,
Right, and like you said, Tesla is already on it.

Their future state batteries plan to use zero cobalt, and they are currently using less cobalt in batteries than any other EV maker.
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