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re: Video of 7yo "transgender" admitting his mom dresses him in dresses, paints his nails

Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:40 pm to
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I have yet to see an instance where it makes sense to leave the kid with the mom, that's the problem.



Thats fair.. Look I know it seems like I'm defending the mom 's case. I'm not. The science behind sexual identity is still unclear and it another one of these issue like climate change that has unfortunately become politicized. Imo all these parents parading their young kids around in drag and questioning there sexual orientation and identity at a young age are severally mis guided and often time are not doing it out of whats in the best interest of the child but to as others have said virtue signal. And I definitely disagree with any kind of hormone therapy on children.
That being said I'm not onboard with tar and feathering the mother just yet. Too much of the information of this case is not conclusive yet and neither parent may be doing what in the best interest of the child. BTW I'm not the single downvoter to those responding to me
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:43 pm to
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The science behind sexual identity is still unclear


Sure it's clear. It's a mental disorder.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:46 pm to
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She also wouldn’t be getting referrals to a program whose business is gender reassignment and just started back in 2015. That’s a little like a pregnant woman going to planned parenthood. It’s not to get true advice on whether or not she should have an abortion or thinking other options will be pushed or provided. At that point it’s just affirming decision already made.


That is fair point. I think its fair that some think she was grooming this kid all along. I'm not there yet. Im glad this is getting national attention though.For this child and others it needs to be carefully examined.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:57 pm to
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The science behind sexual identity is still unclear Sure it's clear. It's a mental disorder.


Sexual identity is a term not a classification but I think I know what you meant.
I mean its function. What classifies as a mental disorder is also hard to define imo. It seems to rely on how damaging the disorder is to the individual and others. For example what separates someone who is into clown porn which is perfectly acceptable deviant behavior and someone into bestiality. One is considered mentally ill..why..because one causes harm to another creature..right? So what harm is trans gendered people causing... and what ill is it promoting to society and is it treatable? These are the questions that are being debated right now and studied right now.
Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 12:59 pm to
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The science behind sexual identity is still unclear and it another one of these issue like climate change that has unfortunately become politicized.


I decided to stay out of this thread so far, but I’ll respond.

I knew I was different at 6 years old, I didn’t know what it was, but I gravitated towards girl things. At 10 years old, I wanted to be a girl and didn’t know why I was like this way. At 13 years old in 1988, I went to the library and finally found out what this whole thing was called. I didn’t start my transition until 42 years old, six months away from my retirement from the Army and after a year of therapy.

For the record, I do not think children should be able to medically transition. In this state, the age of consent is 17. Even at that age, I’m a bit hesitant. It should be 18 IMO. In all of my years following gender articles, the number of children who truly know that they were born the wrong sex, is very, very rare.

Keep in mind that sensationalized news articles about a very small subset of radical people is not indicative of the entire community. The overwhelming majority of us want to live our life in peace and dignity. It’s saddening to read some of the comments regarding trans persons here.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 1:01 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 1:15 pm to
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Keep in mind that sensationalized news articles about a very small subset of radical people is not indicative of the entire community.


How do you feel about parents engaging with their children about the subject? It would seem to me that that parents should be opened minded but if they suspect their child may be LGBTQ to just let them come out on their own time and pace.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 1:18 pm to
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It’s saddening to read some of the comments regarding trans persons here.

LINK
Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 1:32 pm to
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How do you feel about parents engaging with their children about the subject? It would seem to me that that parents should be opened minded but if they suspect their child may be LGBTQ to just let them come out on their own time and pace.


Keep an open mind, exactly like you said. My Mom and Dad raised me in the 70’s and 80’s when there wasn’t really any information about this sort of stuff. They didn’t encourage anything, but they let me be, and did it with empathy and understanding. When I came out to them two years ago, my father wrote me the most heartfelt message. This crusty, southern conservative republican said “I’ve always suspected you were, your mom and I will forever love you no matter who you are.”
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Esquire
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 1:53 pm to
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For example what separates someone who is into clown porn which is perfectly acceptable deviant behavior


This isn’t acceptable
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 2:02 pm to
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team of doctors on board this case would have detected


Nope
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 2:12 pm to
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Link to the court findings LINK
Children


That's interesting stuff, for sure. And could be damning. And what's sad is that kid is stuck in the middle of two bad parents. Maybe there isn't a "good" way out, and he should be removed from both?

The plain laying out of facts doesn't tell the whole story (the suicide plan may be unrelated to direct abuse, and could just be a mentally ill person under the care of an insuitable parent).

It just seems neither is fit then.

I mean:
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42) Respondent would lock down the Girls* room and remove all their possession from
their rooms and would not let them participate in family activities.


How many people were locked in a room during a family event? Yeah, I've been there. It's tough to read any of this without actual context.

I'm sure if what what parents do is put in such terms, everything looks bad:

"Removed from social situations forcibly and without choice. Placed in solitary confinement for hours with no outlet for enjoyment."
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9379 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Maybe there isn't a "good" way out, and he should be removed from both?


Its hard to say...you are probably correct.. I'd like to hear more from the mothers side but since she has custody...her speaking out could only hurt her case probably at this point..I'm sure as this case gathers steam there will be more insight.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Summer of George
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/24/19 at 3:08 pm to
Kinda similar to Munchausen syndrome by proxy. Bitch is trying to keep her kid sick. Psycho needs a bullet.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 3:11 pm to
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If a child can determine their sex at 7, why can’t that child choose who to have sex with?
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Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55347 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 3:57 pm to
Mom knows that her kid is way too stupid to get a college scholarship via Academics. She knows that he is way too much of a wimp to get an athletic scholarship.

Mom's just being a smart Mom here. Boy Transvestites can monetize on YouTube, be an Influencer, and make bank. The Queers will donate Bigly to financially assist a little Queer.

This is just being smart. There's no stigma here. We love Queers now.

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