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re: Video game testers attempt to organize a union, get laid off, cry shenanigans.

Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61274 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:02 pm to
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Can you define this in a numerical value?


Just name your salary. Then keep increasing it by 10%. Everyone must make enough to enjoy a high end middle class life apparently, even if they spend like damn fools.
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4616 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:05 pm to
I'm so confused there are folks in here who don't understand why testing for video games is a job
Video games are just software. Software of any kind in any industry is tested as part of its development process. Testing it is par for the course and expected so the product can be good.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3109 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:12 pm to
I did this for a while. It’s very limited scheduling and very limited pay. It’s designed to be a part time job. It isn’t intended to be someone’s primary source of income. The idea of starting a union like just anyone off the street can’t do this is ridiculous
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76536 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:15 pm to
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People siding with gamers wanting to form a Union…

Good grief


Just never thought I would see the day that a company that won multiple “worst company in America” awards would have such support.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58903 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:17 pm to
They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3109 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:31 pm to
Where did you find that load of shite?
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14304 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:37 pm to
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I always laugh at people who immediately side with management over labor, despite the fact that they are undoubtedly closer to the latter than the former


frick a fricking Union.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37058 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:42 pm to
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always laugh at people who immediately side with management over labor, despite the fact that they are undoubtedly closer to the latter than the former.


Have not been in a union since I was working a stadium job in high school. That experience left me extremely skeptical about the effectiveness or good motivations of the people who run the big unions.

All that talk about caring about our wages was nonsense when you saw what a giant cut of your paycheck they seized
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2185 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 6:43 pm to
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I always laugh at people who immediately side with management over labor, despite the fact that they are undoubtedly closer to the latter than the former.

Bold assumption, Cotton.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33932 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:00 pm to
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Now unless you plan to come up with a way to fill all the necessary, lower-level jobs in society with people that do not need a livable wage, therein lies the problem you anti entitlement boot lickers need to figure out.


You act like this is something difficult to figure out. It’s not. It’s basic fricking logic. You are coming at it backwards.

Entitlements have created artificial population growth by poor, uneducated people who ordinarily would not be having children (or as many children) because they could not ordinarily afford them. This increases exponentially over generations.

It also attracts illegals that come here for entitlements.

Entitlements are the problem, not the solution. Hunger is a great motivator, which has been removed from society by the government.

Get rid of entitlements and the NEED for them will dwindle over time.

Next problem? I’m happy to help.
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
2266 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:08 pm to
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EA has over 6,000 employees. Over half make over $104k. The lowest paid makes $43k

Not exactly slave wages.

These guys were working for a subcontractor who decided to outsource.


This is correct. The vast majority of the employees in that building are not EA employees but employees of a third party company contracted with EA. The people in management roles are EA. There is a whole class system built around it or used to be. People with yellow badges were testers (contractors) and were grunts. Purple badges were EA employees often managers or executives and paid much more.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61274 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:11 pm to
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Purple badges were EA employees often managers or executives and paid much more.




If I were interested in more money, I would figure out how to be a purple badge.
Or find a better job if I had any skills at all.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58903 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:24 pm to
Deep in my heart
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12344 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:25 pm to
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Cause there is this disconnect with some people on here that love to relish in low-level workers being told to shut up and lick the boot of billion-dollar corporations that want to treat and pay their employees as little as possible, then whine when we spend so much money on entitlements.


I will tell you the same thing I have told many people. If I can walk into a Walmart parking lot, throw a rock and hit a guy and that guy can replace you in your job at that point, you deserve minimum wage or less. Cold facts are that if you are fricking up someone's order at McDonalds or Taco Bell or frying the shitty food they serve, you should make minimum wage. If you show up a little early every day, have a good attitude and learn each level of the work then you will be a manager there in less than 6 months.

The problem we have now in this country is the image of success and the instant gratification that all the youth now require. They see someone with a 500k house and think that they should have, or deserve, that with no skills in any capacity or field. Sometimes people just have to pay their dues and then move on in their careers. Work the shite job, figure out that sucks and that money sucks but you get a few valuable life lessons and skills and then move on to another place or move up in that place. No one seems to want to work their way up anymore.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22465 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:29 pm to
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they were expected to train other quality assurance testers in the United Kingdom and Romania who were likely their replacements.


Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33932 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:49 pm to
Yep. Supply and demand applies to employees as well.

It’s why teachers, police, firefighters etc, will never be highly paid.

There are simply too many of them, and it’s too easy to become one.

And they can’t make it harder, because then they couldn’t hire enough.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:57 pm to
frick EA and every other company that does this shite


I don't give a frick what kind of stupid arse job it is.


I don't want it going overseas.
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5846 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:09 pm to
Right on brother.

These people in here talking trash couldn't hang. The joysticks would tear up their soft little hands.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17019 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:24 pm to
Good, frick unions
Posted by Mr Poop
Jefferson Parish
Member since Aug 2021
37 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:28 pm to
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"is a union really necessary for people who play video games for a living?"


Unions are necessary for ALL workers. They help protect labor rights.
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