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re: Verdun, February 21, 1916. How long could you stand the bombardment of a million shells?

Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:18 am to
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:18 am to
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How long could you stand the bombardment of a million shells?


Probably right up until the moment one of them killed me. What other choice would you have?
Posted by Nigel Farage
South of the Mason-Dixon
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:18 am to
The one timeline I would love to see would be the Germans breaking through on the Marne in 1914 and we see a quick end to this war. No Russian revolution, the Ottoman Empire isnt broken apart by European powers, no rise of Nazism, I could go on and on.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:19 am to
Truly one of the most miserable places on earth to experience that at the time
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:10 pm to
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But I honestly think the advancements these militaries had made between the Civil War and WW1 push it a hair past the civil war. The new technology combined with the outdated tactics being used put these men in an absolute meat grinder and no one had the wherewithal to stop and say, "hmm, we may need to try something else."


Been doing some reading on the Civil War lately and apparently that is where trench warfare had it's beginnings. For most of the war however, you had lines of men walking across fields into the face of cannons firing double grapeshot rounds. Simply insane and it's surprising even more were not killed.

WW1 saw it taken to the next level with long range howitzers firing much larger shells.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:54 pm to
And many of those men that did survive had catastrophic PTSD. Their minds were absolutely broken by the experience even if their bodies were unscathed.

Shell shock Verdun
LINK
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:56 pm to
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Been doing some reading on the Civil War lately and apparently that is where trench warfare had it's beginnings.


I visited the Wilderness battlefield in northern Virginia last weekend and it was surreal seeing the remnants of Union and Confederate trenches in the woods. That's the battle where trench warfare truly began. By the time the two armies were in Petersburg a month and a half later, some of those trenches were beginning to resemble the ones we would see in World War I some 50 years later.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108356 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:02 pm to
No way I could have handled that. I would have died for sure. Talk about hell on earth. Only place worse I can think of would be Stalingrad in the 20th century.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:07 pm to
Been there twice.

Hard to describe the mixture of emotions one gets by visiting that area.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:19 pm to
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Hard to describe the mixture of emotions one gets by visiting that area.


I imagine the very area has a feel to it. An energy. An aura of the past
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7312 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:19 pm to
There is a movie called Regeneration (released in the US as Behind the Lines) I think you would appreciate. Two of the characters are Wilfred Owen and Siegfried Sassoon where they meet in a psychiatric war hospital.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 1:20 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27506 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:27 pm to
Just think 1 million shells on the first day. It boggles the mind. The " battle" lasted another 9 months with little to no real advantage attained by either side......slaughter.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
65680 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:31 pm to
Yes, and I’m not much into sensitivity of place but it’s sobering.

There is a huge Ossuary at Douaumont there. It has a subfloor with glass windows showing the bones beneath the floor of the entire structure.




Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:44 pm to
The ossuaries blow my mind. So so many dead.

Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
65680 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:53 pm to
An estimated 130k I think at Douaumont alone, if I recall correctly.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:53 pm to
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You're my favorite kinda weirdo,


What kind of weirdo is that?
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1662 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:58 pm to
While looking at some of the previously linked videos, I Came across this video of a sculptor makes masking for those disfigured.

Sculptor making masks

This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 8:24 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54040 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:59 pm to
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It seems like War was so romanticized before WWI that countries went into it with excitement and gusto.

That romanticism met the reality of modern warfare head-on and died a quick death in WW1.
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2284 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:00 pm to
WW1 fans should watch the newest Kingsman on HBO Max or Hulu
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124192 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:01 pm to
Oooohhhhhh, I’ll do that one after I finish Boardwalk Empire. On season 5 now


What a badass. WW1 vet. Really well written
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