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re: Verdun, February 21, 1916. How long could you stand the bombardment of a million shells?

Posted on 2/21/22 at 5:46 pm to
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5175 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 5:46 pm to
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Foreign observers did a piss poor job of conveying the sights and sounds of the Overland Campaign of May-June 1864 to their superiors on the general staffs of the various European countries. Those late American Civil War battles between Grant and Lee were a definite sign of things to come.


I think quite the opposite, as the European war observers and strategists were making attempts at adapting with later wars. The Franco-Prussian war (1870) was the war that marked the change from muzzle loading to breech loading both rifles and artillery. The next large engagement shaping WW1 tactic was 2nd Boer War (1899-1902). The results from Boer War experience caused tactics revolution in most major European powers. Due to those previous two I mentioned, when the Russo-Japanese war (1904-1905) came about, most world military powers were eager to study modern war while being on the sideline. The Russo-Japanese war strangely had neutral (at the time) western powers observing from both the Russian and Japanese side. Their sole purpose was to study modern war, and they did, with many reports created. Lessons from Russo-Japanese were never, or incorrectly, used in WW1. I think it was the most foreshadowing the World would see leading into war.

The Russo-Japanese War is very intriguing as I was never taught about this in school other than small snippet on Teddy Roosevelt and Nobel Peace Prize. Another interesting side bar is that the Russo-Japanese War and peace treaty, was the start of anti-American sentiment in Japan. Stop me if you've heard this as a reason for war, but Japan felt the United States swindled them into an unfair peace treaty.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124190 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 7:50 pm to
The shelling would just now be dying down. Wild
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21415 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:05 pm to
My granddad Rowzee was in WW1. He was gassed twice. Sent to the rear each time till he could breathe. Went back to the front and ended up in a tree after an artillery barrage. Had shrapnel removed from his back and two weeks later sent back to front. Ended up having to bayonet a German through the mouth when they attacked the German lines. He was 30 years old when he enlisted and had dark hair. when he returned his hair was completely white. He lived till I was about 8, still miss him.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124190 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:11 pm to
Wow, that’s an awesome story
Posted by SpringBokCock
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2003
3157 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:03 pm to
WWI memoir

My grandfather Joe lived to be a hundred. He survived the Somme, Arras and Ypres - plus being torpedoed when he was finally sent home.

He was interviewed in 1995 when he was 97. This is the story.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1662 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 6:27 am to
Very interesting read. Thanks for sharing it.

Helluva man
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124190 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 7:32 am to
Looking forward to reading this. Thank you for sharing
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 7:45 am
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 7:38 am to
And millennials who run around eating tide pods think somehow they are the best generation
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30258 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 7:45 am to
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SpringBokCock


Thank you for sharing that. That kind of History telling is invaluable. Your grandfather was no doubt a great man.

Anyone else here take Dr. Roiders WWI History class at LSU?

BY FAR, my favorite class ever and best professor in my college career.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124190 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 7:46 am to
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Anyone else here take Dr. Roiders WWI History class at LSU?



I had Dr. Roider but didn’t get to take his WW1 class. I bet it was incredible
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/22/22 at 3:58 pm to
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Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124190 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:51 pm to
Absolutely fascinating read! Thank you so much for sharing this with us. Highly recommend anyone else in this thread to read a first hand perspective
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35541 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 8:36 pm to
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My grandfather Joe lived to be a hundred. He survived the Somme, Arras and Ypres - plus being torpedoed when he was finally sent home. He was interviewed in 1995 when he was 97. This is the story.
Thank you for sharing.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57220 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:31 pm to
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It was 19th century tactics meeting 20th century tech.


The Siege of Petersburg, but with obsolete commanders, machine guns, modern rifles, deadly accurate artillery, gas, and, worse, barbed wire.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:43 pm to
Probably until I got hit by one...

Just a guess.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3917 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:22 pm to
And the people running the world now would not think twice about putting us back in trenches to suffer the same fate. So long as it kept them in power for just one more moment.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
2596 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:33 pm to
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Many say this conflict was the first contrived "Globalist" war. No historian can give any possible good reason for it.


Having done the tour of the WWI museum and memorial in KC last year around this time over my child’s spring break it was a fantastic experience, if you’re a history buff you’ll spend the day there.
At the start of your tour, everyone is gathered in a theatre and a 20 minute video is played trying to give you an idea of the infinite number of variables that lead up to world wide conflagration. The absurdity of the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand as being the lynchpin that started it is poignant.

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No historian can give any possible good reason for it


Was verbatim as the video concluded
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 11:35 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:45 pm to
Germans might have pulled it off had it not been for Little Willy and his decision to push on into the city.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6003 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:16 am to
I was randomly thinking about WWI shelling today.

Thinking I could take the shell shock but I know my pampered modern arse couldn’t handle it.
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