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re: Vegas teen who killed retired police chief in hit-and-run found unfit to stand trial

Posted on 10/13/24 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25198 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 2:45 pm to
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I'm good going Lord of the Flies


When criminal justice systems fail, that happens naturally.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13122 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 2:49 pm to
I know where Trump’s next rally should be.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
20043 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 3:23 pm to
I always wondered why does crazy/insanity case affect a murder charge? Unfit to stand trial?!? I don't give a shite if your crazy, you killed someone. You need to be punished to the highest degree
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3355 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 3:43 pm to
I get innocent until proven guilty, but it's all on video. Is that not proof enough? Just execute the guy and be done with it.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8503 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 3:49 pm to
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to restore his competency


This is the key. The judge did not find this tPoS kid was legally insane and not responsible. The judge is sending him to the loony bin to make sure he’s mentally competent before proceeding. Just a temporary pause in the case before the kid faces a jury. If the state gets a conviction you want it to hold up on appeal and not get tossed on a technicality.
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
3091 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 5:59 pm to
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When criminal justice systems fail, that happens naturally

What are we waiting on then?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46459 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 6:49 pm to
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These seven public defenders, all women, many women of color, are now set to become judges in January. Harris is heading to the North Las Vegas Justice Court; the others were elected to the Eighth Judicial District Court, despite many being significantly outraised by their opponents


Elections have consequences
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44358 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 6:54 pm to
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Sun Valleys


Has voted Democrat for years. And is very, very, very far left.

Your average resident of Ketchum and Hailey are just a bit left of Chairman Mao.

Both towns are full of three types of people:

1. Rich progressives.
2. Poor "artist" progressives.
3. Hispanics who do all the manual labor the above two groups refuse to do.

Source: I was there three weeks ago.

Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7963 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 6:55 pm to
He shouldn’t stand trial. He just stand in front of a hole he dug that someone else will fill in
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3355 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 7:00 pm to
Get a conviction? It's on fricking video.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 7:03 pm to
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This is the key. The judge did not find this tPoS kid was legally insane and not responsible. The judge is sending him to the loony bin to make sure he’s mentally competent before proceeding. Just a temporary pause in the case before the kid faces a jury. If the state gets a conviction you want it to hold up on appeal and not get tossed on a technicality.
How does this not complicate the proceedings though?

We have a judge who is sending him to a psychiatric facility to “restore competency”, which gives weight to any argument that he is incompetent.
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30036 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 7:20 pm to
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How does this not complicate the proceedings though?


It does but likely good for the prosecution and reduces the weight of any appeals based on competency.

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We have a judge who is sending him to a psychiatric facility to “restore competency”, which gives weight to any argument that he is incompetent.


The judge's opinion of competency one way or another isn't admissible so the jury never hears it. Being in a mental detention facility gives the prosecution experts lots of time to develop their case. Short 2 hour examinations always come under defense scrutiny. It is also much harder to fake diminished capacity which would prevent active involvement in one's defense for 2 hours than 2 weeks or 2 months. This is especially true when you are being watched much of the time. Most everyone will drop the veil at some point.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83198 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 7:54 pm to
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But, of course, the snowflakes didn’t bother to read and think critically before sky screaming about “muh progressives.”


You pussy twats sure are creative. This judge is a progressive, just like you. And progressives absolutely do look for reasons to be light on criminals. And unless something radically changed with this killer since his arrest—since we have the thing on video and know he wasn’t insane at the time—I can’t imagine there was truly a serious concern that a conviction would be overturned. Overturning convictions and proving insanity is very difficult…unless it’s a progressive judge.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:39 pm to
TRUMP should HAVE ADS OF THIS ON TV & Play the Video at all Rallies & Pin this on KUUMALLLA
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:55 pm to
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always wondered why does crazy/insanity case affect a murder charge? Unfit to stand trial?!? I don't give a shite if your crazy, you killed someone. You need to be punished to the highest degree


Someone decided that to be convicted of committing a crime, one had to be aware that they are committing a crime, or at least be capable of understanding such. So naturally defense lawyers used it as a cop out, instead of doing what they are supposed to do and fight the allegations.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31729 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 10:00 pm to
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You pussy twats sure are creative. This judge is a progressive, just like you. And progressives absolutely do look for reasons to be light on criminals. And unless something radically changed with this killer since his arrest—since we have the thing on video and know he wasn’t insane at the time—I can’t imagine there was truly a serious concern that a conviction would be overturned. Overturning convictions and proving insanity is very difficult…unless it’s a progressive judge.

Competence to stand trial and sanity at the time of the offense are two, utterly unrelated, concepts.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7963 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:39 am to
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Competence to stand trial and sanity at the time of the offense are two, utterly unrelated, concepts.


Take an innocent life and then show no remorse while running your mouth about knowing the loopholes. Sounds like this piece of shite had plenty of sanity. Again he should dig a hole then have someone else fill it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:40 am to
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He’ll likely spend more time in the Psychiatric Hospital than he would have spent in jail, so drugged up he can’t control his bodily functions. One can hope at least.

Correct.

And if he does get competent, then he'll stand trial.

As usual, people are melting irrationally for their emotional dopamine hit.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:41 am to
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To me it sounds like they’re no dropping charges and just delaying the trial. The “out of abundance of caution” makes it seem like this is so the verdict isn’t thrown out or ruled as a mistrial in an appeal in case he claims he was insane or something.


Correct.

Again, that doesn't fill the emotional needs for some posters.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31729 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:42 am to
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Take an innocent life and then show no remorse while running your mouth about knowing the loopholes. Sounds like this piece of shite had plenty of sanity. Again he should dig a hole then have someone else fill it
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Competence to stand trial and sanity at the time of the offense are two, utterly unrelated, concepts.
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