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re: Vatican Archives. What lost artifacts are in there?

Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:53 am to
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:53 am to
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What really intrigues me is the information one Pope passes down to the next Pope. It is highly believed that one piece of information is how & when the world will end.


How would he manage to accomplish this seeing as how the old pope is almost always dead before a new one is chosen?
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1997 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:01 am to
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Rogan has talked about this recently. supposedly in a heavily guarded church in Ethiopia and the chosen caretakers all get cataracts

It’s not, British guy saw it during WWII and wrote and spoke about it.
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The likely last non-Ethiopian person who saw the Ark of Aksum was the most important Ethiopiologist of the 20th century, Edward Ullendorff (1920-2011). A Jew from Zürich, Ullendorff did his Semitic and Ethiopic studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, where he met and married his Jewish neighbor, Dina; the Second World War cut his studies short and he joined the British army, serving in Ethiopia, of course. There, Ullendorff became a close friend of Haile Selassie, the 225th monarch descended from Menelik, son of Solomon (see above) whose autobiography he would later translate. After the war he helped to establish the Ethiopian school system, which has been the best in the Third World and one of the best in the world. Unfortunately, the system covered only three cities. In 1941, while a British officer, Ullendorff had a rare chance to examine the Ark kept in Aksum; in an interview with the LA Times from 1992, he said flatly: “I’ve seen it. There was no problem getting access when I saw it in 1941 … You need to be able to speak their language, classical Ge’ez … they have a wooden box, but it’s empty. Middle- to late-medieval construction, when these were fabricated ad hoc.”


Tablet Magazine

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:02 am to
I heard they have Queen Elizabeth the second's diamond butt plug
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:06 am to
Probably lots of treasures the Nazis captured since the Vatican accepted loot as payments for assistance for the Nazis to escape Europe.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:07 am to
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they have a wooden box, but it’s empty. Middle- to late-medieval construction, when these were fabricated ad hoc.



Other than being impressively old and killing anyone who touches it, eventually (is there a time limit on this???) there ain't much impressive about it....its a wooden box.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
84709 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:07 am to
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How would he manage to accomplish this seeing as how the old pope is almost always dead before a new one is chosen?


That’s at least 2 people in this thread so far who don’t have any concept of a sealed envelope.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:08 am to
You go do research and come report to us.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:09 am to
Scholars have access to the archives. None of the sensationalistic stuff is in there, but there are a bunch of really old documents. Jimmy Akin did a mysterious world episode on this:

Jimmy Akin youtube
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 11:35 am
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58313 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:10 am to
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Whoever transports it might wanna make absolutely 100% they are lineage of the levites. Also, anyone else who touches it, will die.


Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
2118 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:18 am to
The archives contain 53 miles of shelving.

Vatican archives history
Posted by BogeyTX
Member since Apr 2018
874 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:20 am to
I just went down a wormhole reading about The excommunication of Martin Luther in 1521 and A plea from Mary, Queen of Scots, before her execution in 1587.

Apparently those are some of the notable documents in the archives.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2279 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:36 am to
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as well as the grail.


What we think the grail is, is at the Cathedral of Valencia (Spain)
LINK


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I believe the arc of covenant is kept there


The Arc has not been recovered, but Ron Wyatt made some interesting claims of discovery.
LINK
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
19870 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:44 am to
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That’s not a shot at the Catholic Church, it’s just that’s what God set the rules as.
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Also, anyone else who touches it, will die.

Wait. You and others actually believe this?

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16890 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:45 am to
You can be damned sure there are writings from the time of Jesus that paint a different picture of events/people. They must protect their canon at all costs.

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
19870 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:46 am to
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It is highly believed that one piece of information is how & when the world will end.

People are so fricking gullible lol
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16890 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:49 am to
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Scholars have access to the archives.


Sure they do. ALL of the archives.

Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85090 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:52 am to
for what purpose would the Church keep these artifacts from the rest of the world?
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:05 pm to
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What really intrigues me is the information one Pope passes down to the next Pope.



It's pretty much the norm that the Pope dies prior to his successor being chosen.

I mean, there's a thing called writing and all.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4296 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:17 pm to
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No way the vatican would allow that to remain there with the possibility of jihadi's coming


Jihad in Ethiopia???… wrong country
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:19 pm to
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If anyone knew and it was worth anything or in the least impressive the Church would have put it on display at some point in history to impress the peasants. The Church is nothing if not very good at putting on a show.


I see you too have been to the Vatican.
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