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Vacation Destination Ban By Company - Corona Related

Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:42 pm
Posted by LSU Delirium
Member since Aug 2013
443 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:42 pm
So my company is going in a different direction. Of course everyone is required to go in, but I had a question on their new vacation policy.

They are banning personal vacation to all “hotspot areas”, which includes all major airports and multiple states (Washington, California, Colorado, Florida, New York, etc.)

If you choose to go on your vacation, you are required to quarantine at home for 14, unpaid days, when you get back. Even if you show no symptoms. They implemented this today, with spring break next week.

Is this even legal? This company is one of the worst I’ve ever worked for, but this seems way overstepping.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
16006 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:44 pm to
it is vastly overkill, but unfortunately they can do what they want.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5018 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

unfortunately they can do what they want.


Not sure that is true.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48575 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:44 pm to
Just go to Florida anyway baw and tell them you were at the Beau Rivage.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19265 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:44 pm to
Ebenezer Scrooge Inc?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33008 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:45 pm to
Private companies can do as these please regarding vacation policies. Seems a bit much but doubt they will be the only company to move this direction.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62800 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:46 pm to
Out of line.
What if you have a family emergency in one of these so called hot spots?
I'm under no obligation to tell my company what I do on my own time
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

So my company is going in a different direction. Of course everyone is required to go in, but I had a question on their new vacation policy.

They are banning personal vacation to all “hotspot areas”, which includes all major airports and multiple states (Washington, California, Colorado, Florida, New York, etc.)

If you choose to go on your vacation, you are required to quarantine at home for 14, unpaid days, when you get back. Even if you show no symptoms. They implemented this today, with spring break next week.

Is this even legal? This company is one of the worst I’ve ever worked for, but this seems way overstepping.

They can't ban you from going somewhere.

I would take my vacation NOW. Two weeks plus their unpaid two weeks.

My arse is headed to Costa Rica for a month.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25627 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:48 pm to
This seems real simple.
Go on vacation. Get off of facebook queer, and tell you wife to get off of it too.
Come back from vacation.
When asked where you went, say we decided to stay home and relax.
Don't make this harder than it has to be. TWSS
Posted by Desert King
Member since Oct 2018
1936 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:49 pm to
How do they know where you travel? They checking your credit card statements or something?
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:50 pm to
Just as it’s your right to do as you please with vacation destinations it’s their right to fire you if you don’t go by their guidelines. Unless there is some sort of discrimination going on as to who has to follow the guidelines
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38550 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

They are banning personal vacation to all “hotspot areas”, which includes all major airports and multiple states (Washington, California, Colorado, Florida, New York, etc.)


quote:

Is this even legal?




It's none of their business as to where you go, especially if staying domestic.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19247 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:51 pm to
I don't see how in the hell they could possibly know where you go. Unless you tell them. Then that's on you.
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
1437 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:53 pm to
I would definitely update my resume and find a new company. I could understand if this was for a combat-ready unit in a theater of war, but not your typical company. My guess is someone at the top has an extremely bloated sense of self-importance.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55662 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:57 pm to
Everyone I’ve talked to who works at a big company has said this is the case
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
783 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:00 pm to
dont see how they can tell you where you can or cannot go while on youre own time..

also, this is the ot, why dont you own the company yet?
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 5:03 pm
Posted by hollowpoint
Texas
Member since Sep 2019
1039 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

I don't see how in the hell they could possibly know where you go. Unless you tell them. Then that's on you.

Tracking by company phone?

Tracking by company apps installed on personal phone?

Checking VPN logs?

If they want to, they can find out where you have been.
Posted by LSU Delirium
Member since Aug 2013
443 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:09 pm to
Not on Facebook and it won’t affect me.

But a few of the others have touched on what am I asking. Spring break is next week, if I had ANY travel plans that involved an airport I have 2 choices: cancel my plans the day most people would be leaving, or lose a paycheck. That seems to be crossing some sort of boundary on how a company can control/dictate what I do on my time off.

We have to submit for vacay. Anyone that is traveling over the next month received an email on their travel plans. If you are found to have lied about the travel plans you will be disciplined, up to firing.
Posted by CBDTiger
NOLA
Member since Mar 2004
1246 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:12 pm to
From a list of Q&As that my firm is putting together:

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"Can an employer restrict an employee’s travel to a particular region or territory? If business-related, yes a restriction is appropriate and completely legal. If for personal travel, then an employer can warn an employee ahead of time that he or she will be quarantined upon return for a specified period of time. Given employment-at-will, an employer could tell employees not to travel at all---or else. As long as the rule is evenly applied, an employer has the right to make that a condition of continued employment. An employer can also deny time away from work (i.e. personal vacation) based upon “business necessity” or a “business decision.”
***

That said, I've not seen this approach taken with any domestic locations (only international). It's a fluid situation however and once more testing is done I suspect US cities or states will be labeled "no go." Coworker in the next office is returning from France Monday and will be in 2-week self- quarantine per company policy.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65714 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:20 pm to
When I got back to work after my vacation and they asked me where I’d gone, I’d tell them that the answer to that question* will cost them four more weeks of vacation time for me.

*The correct answer might cost them even more.
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