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re: Utah surgeon, others accused of destroying vaccines, giving fake shots to children

Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:10 pm to
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Scaring parents into injecting a pointless, unproven, and potentially dangerous serum into little kids is cool though?


Holy jump in logic, Batman.

I don’t agree with COVID mandates. That said, what happens when someone like the Doc in OP is a legitimate anti-vaxxer and wants to do this with an MMR because they believe it causes autism?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:12 pm to
Unfortunately many weren't scared at all.

The number of vapid people in line to give their little ones a vaccine they don't need was pretty staggering. Maybe a few of them are fearful, but I just don't see a way around most of them doing it solely to be viewed as intelligent/progressive/etc. and separate themselves from the unwashed.
Posted by Tigerbait357
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Scaring parents into injecting a pointless, unproven, and potentially dangerous serum into little kids is cool though?



I'm in the boat of not tampering with potential vaccines (even COVID ones), its a potential safety risk,

But its also ridiculous and outrageous to be forcing COVID shots on children.


This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:14 pm to
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That said, what happens when someone like the Doc in OP is a legitimate anti-vaxxer and wants to do this with an MMR because they believe it causes autism?




Good thing in Louisiana your kids can get a waiver from any vaccine. It's probably why we don't have the problem of fake vaccine shots in Louisiana.
Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Guilty or not guilty?



Depends. What were they giving them instead of the vaccine? If they were injecting them with AIDS or something then yes.

Seriously, this vaccine shite is completely out of hand and its hard to tell what to believe, what not to believe, but as a general statement, if I decide to get a vaccine, medicine, etc and I go to my doctor to get it, I expect to get what I went there to get.

Or at least provide patients with the information they used to decide to throw out the vaccines to the patients and let them decide from there. IMO this is the same as forcing people to take it. A person should decide for themselves.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:16 pm to
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What were they giving them instead of the vaccine?


The article said harmless saline solution.

Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:17 pm to
A plastic surgeon is giving vaccines?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Good thing in Louisiana your kids can get a waiver from any vaccine


What normal shots do you think your kids shouldnt get? Other than covid of course
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:19 pm to
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The article said harmless saline solution.


Well like I said, its not their right to decide to give that to people instead of what they went there to get.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:20 pm to
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Well like I said, its not their right to decide to give that to people instead of what they went there to get.


The people went there to not get the vaxx

This was a fake vaxx card mill essentially
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

The people went there to not get the vaxx

This was a fake vaxx card mill essentially


Then the title of this thread needs to be changed.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:25 pm to
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Holy jump in logic, Batman.

I don’t agree with COVID mandates. That said, what happens when someone like the Doc in OP is a legitimate anti-vaxxer and wants to do this with an MMR because they believe it causes autism?

Did you read the article? The only "fake" vaccines that were given out were given to children, when the parents requested it. This doctor wasn't going rogue and just giving any and everyone a "fake" vaccine. They provided fake cards to some people, and provided "fake" vaccines to the kids of parents who didn't want their kids to get the real one.

ETA: they are not accused of given random adults a fake vaccine when they wanted a real one.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 1:29 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:28 pm to
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Were the kids really begging their parents to get the shot?


It’s so they wouldn’t go to school and be like “I never Got a Covid shot”

Kids are not great at schemes.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:30 pm to
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We need doctors administering “fake” vaccines?

If this was anything other than a COVID shot y’all would be ready to throw them in jail for negligence.

Talk about a slippery slope.


Yes, because a lot of colleges still require the vaccine.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:31 pm to
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I'd push for jury nullification



Ya if they get a trial by jury, they'll be fine since it's in Utah. There's a deep level of government mistrust with Mormans and they'll protect their own.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:37 pm to
What is the numbers on the fake vaxxed vs vaxxed on getting covid? Probably same precent I would suspect.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:37 pm to
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There's a deep level of government mistrust with Mormans and they'll protect their own.


Yet they are fine with a huge break in trust with physicians? These doctors should get hammered and thrown under the jail because this sets up the potential of physicians going the opposite end of the spectrum as we see here
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 1:41 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:38 pm to



Looking very not guilty
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

What normal shots do you think your kids shouldnt get?


All the vaccines my pediatrician recommends minus the covid vaccine (which she does not recommend).
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:41 pm to
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A person should decide for themselves.


You said unvaccinated people shouldn't receive care at hospitals. Piss off with this we should have a choice now
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