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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **

Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by shiftworker
LP
Member since Dec 2011
5319 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:33 pm to
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About to make this louisiana refinery unionized too. No need to get another job, we about to be taken care of, waiting for the cards to circulated.


It's not the bowl of cherries you think it is. Might be better than you have right now though.
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:34 pm to
I agree. There is good and bad on both sides of the fence.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6746 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:35 pm to
I dont work for Marathon but you sound all sorts of bitter and i would say misinformed

Why would someone be requires to work 14 days straight, against a fatigue policy, to recieve a bonus structure

You should find another employer
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
7132 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:36 pm to
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Where i work, salaried employees on TA are required to take fatigue days as well. And they arent compensated monetarily by any means for working every day during a TA event


What about "extended pay" for salaried employees where you work? It's pretty attractive these days for a FLS to work 4-10's most of the year then make that extended pay on the TA.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78227 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Why would someone be requires to work 14 days straight, against a fatigue policy, to recieve a bonus structure




No two policies are the same
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:38 pm to
That is easier said than done for most people. It is especially easy to suggest when it applies to someone else.
Posted by Marathonops
Member since Feb 2015
11 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:40 pm to
Not misinformed, spreading the facts! Our fatigue policy only affects hourly employees and not salary. Because that would affect there bonus. I'm not for the fatique policy, but if we have to follow it makes it the same across the board, that's taking money from our pockets and back in te salary pockets. That's a FACT!!
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12648 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:41 pm to
Has anyone heard if any of the ExxonMobil refineries will strike?
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:43 pm to
Not yet that I know of. I have talked to employees of "support" plants and they were told to have their bags packed and ready yesterday.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78227 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:43 pm to
The fatigue policy that I know of does not apply to salary.

It is also only enforced on turnarounds and not regular time. Even if the overtime is created due to a turnaround.
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:46 pm to
Ours applies plant wide. API 755 is what it is called.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12648 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:49 pm to
Thanks for the info. My buddy is scheduled to start working in ops at the Baytown site in early March and he's shifting bricks.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78227 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:50 pm to
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Ours applies plant wide. API 755 is what it is called.



Yeah, that is the nationwide standard. Who enforces your plan? Is there an independent third party or fine that is paid to a government agency?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78227 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:51 pm to
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start working in ops


I already hate his lazy arse
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6746 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:52 pm to
Our plant management enforces ours

We have metrics fir that shite.

Everyone gets their 14th day
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:55 pm to
It's our own version of API 755. They tried to tell us that it was law. But some of us called them on it. API is more of a suggestion than a standard. Then they told us it was the company's version of it therefore it was policy. It is enforced in house.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78227 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:58 pm to
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Then they told us it was the company's version of it therefore it was policy


Yeah, all of them I have heard of are enforced by the company. Therefore it is really just a procedure until it is redlined.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12648 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:02 pm to
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I already hate his lazy arse


he's a good dude and a hard worker. We'll see after he goes union
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78227 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:04 pm to
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he's a good dude and a hard worker. We'll see after he goes union


I lose respect for someone if I ever hear someone use the union as an excuse for not doing something.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 10:05 pm
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:07 pm to
That is one of the blights on organizing. Easy to remember the bad things.
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