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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **

Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Yeah, all of them I have heard of are enforced by the company. Therefore it is really just a procedure until it is redlined.


That's kind of where we are at right now. They put it on "pause" when we started passing out literature.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:23 pm to
Soooo has anyone suggested what this might do to oil prices?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78227 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Soooo has anyone suggested what this might do to oil prices?


Nothing, different part of the stream
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:25 pm to
Doesn't apply to downstream
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
9164 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:29 am to
People hate the big oil companies but Gov't makes close to if not more profit off each gallon in taxes.
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:48 am to
You should read the entire thread. Plenty of posts ate up with the DA's. Only want to see what they want to see.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78227 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:48 am to
Fox News has conditioned a certain demographic.

They blame the workers for high commodities when businesses are raking in profits of middle sized countries. They excuse behavior that results in destroying the environment and orchestrating wars because politicians masquerading as journalists make them believe it is patriotic to look down on the working class.
Posted by justusstone
Along The River
Member since Apr 2004
485 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 1:04 am to
I tend to agree with this. Might as well call them state news agencies. Wait and see who they will paint as the bad guy in all of this. If it is up to many on this board then we might as well never try to improve because we are too greedy. We already have more than enough already.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 3:45 am to
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I do contracts for projects and the god damn primadonna welders and pipe fitters are enough to drive anyone crazy. $38 an hour st is not good enough. $125 a day per diem is not good enough. Give me my extra for night shift and give me more because I had to park offsite. And give me more because I'm working hard and shite.


At my plant here in Texas this is all done by contractors...many of whom originated from south of the border. They do not make anywhere near those wages...and of course the benefits are shite.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 3:51 am
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
85640 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 5:40 am to
I work for an e&p company

I don't know why unions are needed based on my job but it's a totally different environment

We get yearly raises and bonuses and great insurance and safety is their number one concern. We take more measures to ensure safety than probably any other company
Posted by schwag
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
301 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 6:02 am to
API 755 gave me a day off with pay recently. After working 18 in a row 72 hours must be taken off for fatigue.
Posted by jerkyboyz
underground
Member since Aug 2011
365 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 6:13 am to
Marathonops, you obviously have no idea what your talking about. Salary supervisors are included in the fatigue policy.
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 7:21 am to
Any news this morning? I'm hearing zero news!
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:30 am to
News:

I'm currently watching a protest in downtown Houston at the corner or San Jacinto and McKinney. Outside of the Lyondell Basell headquarters.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 9:31 am
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:39 am to
Ten4. I'm here in SoLa and trying to keep my ear to the ground but I am hearing zilch. I did watch something online with the USW president talking about where the USW and Shell are currently at but nothing about local facilities.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:41 am to
News stations on scene.

Man these frickers are loud.
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:41 am to
Posted by purpletiger006
At Work.....Always
Member since Oct 2007
2637 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:26 pm to
They say that they want Process Safety Officers. Does this mean when one of their 'Brothers/Sisters' are not following a procedure or taking a safety shortcut, will they "look the other way?"

I thought the 80/20 premium split was pretty normal across all industries, am I wrong?

Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:29 pm to
A little rain haulted the protest. What? Union guys can't take a little rain?
Posted by MeatHammer09
SoLa
Member since May 2014
230 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:58 pm to
80/20 is common. I'm fine with my insurance just the way it is IMO. I'm guessing the hire ups in the union at the National level are wanting 90/10. Where I'm at we have people in Process Safety and their job is to make sure that the work load and work "atmosphere" is being handled correctly and adequately.

ie. Management can't just expect you to operate 3-4 units by oneself. That would be deemed a Process Safety Hazard and then Process a Safety rep would step in and intervene with management to work the situation out. Process Safety reps have nothing to do with the day to day safety as in human error safety. They focus more on the Process side of things.
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