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re: US Nuke Program computers run on 8" floppy disks, with code from the 50s
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:46 am to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:46 am to FootballNostradamus
Just imagine if, God fobid, we have to use the tech and it doesn't work.
"GENERAL! IT'S NOT WORKING! ALL I'M GETTING IS LINES!"
"WHAT?! BLOW INSIDE THE SLOT! BLOW! BLOW GODDAMMIT!"
"GENERAL! IT'S NOT WORKING! ALL I'M GETTING IS LINES!"
"WHAT?! BLOW INSIDE THE SLOT! BLOW! BLOW GODDAMMIT!"
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:46 am to Napoleon
quote:maybe if they would spend that money on upgrades they wouldnt have to spend another 60 the next year.
The GAO report says that U.S. government departments spend upwards of $60 billion a year on operating and maintaining out-of-date technologies.
you wonder why we are borrowing money from china. We are spending 60 billion dollars a year on floppy disks.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:47 am to CarRamrod
If you notch the other side of that sleeve you get DOUBLE the storage!!!!!
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:48 am to grammar_knotsi
quote:
Can't just go down to Office Depot and buy an 8" floppy drive.....
Yeah...You can
you do realize that's not an 8" floppy drive right?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:48 am to fillmoregandt
quote:just because you upgrade to something more than Dos doesnt mean you make it "hackable".
asically it's because the intranet for the nukes is essentially unhackable as it is. And the last thing that needs to be hacked into is our nuclear system
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:48 am to Napoleon
We once watched movies on these:
8" Laserdisc
8" Laserdisc
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:49 am to SG_Geaux
quote:
That is scary as hell.
Not really, that old school tech is closed loops so it's not available for enemy state hackers to target.
But tell us more about how scary it is.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:50 am to Napoleon
This has nothing to do with reliability or security by obscurity and everything to do with the fact that the government truly sucks when it comes to funding maintenance and updates to programs. Blame congress, who is always more interested in shiny new shite.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:51 am to Napoleon
quote:
US Nuke Program computers run on 8" floppy disks, with code from the 50s
Wow.
You ain't never seen the Terminator series?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:51 am to Shexter
That's not a 8" drive.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:52 am to PrivatePublic
however you can buy one for $1,500 on ebay
Vintage dual 8 inch HP9895A HPIB interface. Cabinet, power, fan.
Unit came from local university. Unit was tested and was functional. Some scratches on top cover.
Drive cable included. Drives are Control Data design/parts. I have diskets available as well.
Unit is heavy and will be shipped UPS ground. Shipping to be determined. Wait for invoice.
When new this unit would have been over $3000.00
Will ship with a used disk in the drives to protect the heads.
Unit weighs 60 pounds unboxed. Estimated boxed weight 75 pounds.
I have 1 more simular drive units availble to list if interested.
Vintage dual 8 inch HP9895A HPIB interface. Cabinet, power, fan.
Unit came from local university. Unit was tested and was functional. Some scratches on top cover.
Drive cable included. Drives are Control Data design/parts. I have diskets available as well.
Unit is heavy and will be shipped UPS ground. Shipping to be determined. Wait for invoice.
When new this unit would have been over $3000.00
Will ship with a used disk in the drives to protect the heads.
Unit weighs 60 pounds unboxed. Estimated boxed weight 75 pounds.
I have 1 more simular drive units availble to list if interested.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:52 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Plants do this.
In their case, there's a lot of old folks working them. They'd have to be retrained if the system was updated and modernized. Not to mention the fact that units in a plant need constant monitoring. If you were to upgrade, you'd lost the ability to monitor temperature, pressure, etc. which would be incredibly dangerous in a plant. So they'd have to shut down... Which would make them lose millions of dollars.
Whether or not the government does this for a similar reason is beyond me.
In their case, there's a lot of old folks working them. They'd have to be retrained if the system was updated and modernized. Not to mention the fact that units in a plant need constant monitoring. If you were to upgrade, you'd lost the ability to monitor temperature, pressure, etc. which would be incredibly dangerous in a plant. So they'd have to shut down... Which would make them lose millions of dollars.
Whether or not the government does this for a similar reason is beyond me.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:55 am to Napoleon
I'm pretty sure they can emulate a floppy drive and use anything a hard drive, external drive, usb drive show up as a floppy drive in the computers OS. I know they do it for old apple 2's and c64's. they just have to make a interface for the device.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:55 am to Nado Jenkins83
That's really neat-o. What kind of chip you got in there? A Dorito?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:56 am to tke857
quote:
i bet they are a bitch to hack. no one knows those technologies anymore
This!! As an IT professional, there are definitely advantages for having this "old" technology.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:57 am to Friscodog
You can't hack a punch card. There's no real code. Nothing is digital. You would have to physically go there and alter the cards
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:58 am to Jorts R Us
quote:
That's really neat-o. What kind of chip you got in there? A Dorito?
I was thinking more along the lines of WarGames and WOPR ("Shall We Play A Game?")
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:59 am to Napoleon
Ha this reminds me of using native Americans as code talkers during ww2.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:59 am to genro
quote:
You can't hack a punch card
ever drop an entire box of sorted/programmed punch cards on the way to putting them into the system?
i have
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 10:00 am
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:00 am to crash1211
https://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/s_drives_howto.html
quote:
To read 8-inch floppy drives on a "PC", you MAY be able to connect 8-inch drives to a PC's internal floppy controller (if it has one). But you need an 8-inch drive, with power supply, in a cabinet; a 50-pin cable for the 8-inch drive; a wiring adapter for the 50-pin cable to your 34-pin floppy controller; and software and software knowledge! Even with that, MOST PC floppy controllers won't read old single-density format anyway!
quote:
Reading non-MS-DOS disks on a PC, even with the right sized floppy drive "properly" connected, can be difficult. The floppy CONTROLLER on the PC, which does all the work of reading, writing, and formatting, may not be able to accept non-MS-DOS formats, even WITH software. Some early disk formats including Apple's, use odd bit patterns. The controller may not accept single-density. Or it can simply be a problem with knowing which of the MANY MANY CP/M or other disk formats you need to use with your particular diskettes.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 10:02 am
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