re: US now ranks 27th in the world for its levels of healthcare and education

I wonder what these numbers would look like without louisiana tanking our score

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Here are a few good links for you, we spend much more on drugs, administration, and extra diagnostic testing than almost any other country. If you look at prices for specific procedures the US is usually more expensive for comparable surgeries.

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You are linking COSTS. I don’t have a problem with that data. I have a problem with how they measure OUTCOMES.

those 2 determine ranking. Or atleast they should but they also contain bullshite like “equality” and weight it the same.

I’ve gone deep into these studies, I suggest you do the same

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Socialized healthcare will cost more than anything we have ever seen in this country. It’s just a matter of the method of payment.... taxes/debt vs. premiums

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When was I advocating for socialized healthcare? I’m simply acknowledging that our healthcare costs are out of control and that we need to open the discussion of how to fix it instead of pretending that it’s all gravy. The fact is that you can get comparable procedures done anywhere in the world for cheaper than you can in the U.S. so I’m asking why and what can we do to fix this?

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The fact is that you can get comparable procedures done anywhere in the world for cheaper than you can in the U.S. so I’m asking why and what can we do to fix this?

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Why?... third party payer

What can we do?... don’t introduce the biggest third party payer of all. Do the exact opposite

The entire point of the study in the OP is to imply that socialized healthcare is better, so forgive me for thinking you were supporting that. But you should really look into this, don’t take my word. The danger is if these “news” sources keep repeating it enough people start to believe it.

Where can I see the list of 1-26, we might be 5-15 but I can't even think of 26 countries that would be classified as first world countries.


And on education, most countries don't even bother educating the bottom half of students. In Germany they classify you in elementary school and don't even bother with those in the bottom classifications

Damn socialists. Socialized police departments and socialized fire departments blow. Get rid of police, and those who can afford should hire private police officers, paying thousands in premiums.

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Damn socialists. Socialized police departments and socialized fire departments blow. Get rid of police, and those who can afford should hire private police officers, paying thousands in premiums.

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Can't even begin to describe how stupid this statement is.

And the Govt has gotten more and more involved in both since 1990

Maybe the systems as a whole. But there should be little doubt that if you want THE BEST in healthcare or education, you come to the USA.