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re: Update page 5: Natalie Holloway's remains believed to be found

Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by razer
Bossier City
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:56 pm to
How the hell do investigators just pass on by a fresh grave in a park? That's got to stand out just a little bit. Either Aruba has some really shitty investigators or Van der Sloot and his dad did a freakin expert job of concealing the grave.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:58 pm to
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For a while there was the dumb SUV mom belief that she was sold into sex slavery.


Not really that far fetched.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:00 pm to
The article I read said this tip came from a guy with direct knowledge of the event between VS and Holloway. Not sure I it meant this person saw the thing take place, or what.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:02 pm to
Or the investigators knew and were in on it

Their is little crime on the island and with it being so small you can only escape by air or ocean.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98739 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:06 pm to
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He's in prison for killing some big headed Peruvian girl whose name no one knows because she's not a pretty white girl.


But she was rich and her family has political connections. An equally bad career move for an aspiring serial killer
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:14 pm to
I read an article not too long ago (also on Daily Mail) on this topic and this Gabriel guy said that they dumped her at sea. I'll try and track it down.

I'm afraid the Holloway's are being taken for another ride

ETA: Here is part of it

quote:

Dave has met with an informant named Gabriel who said Joran relayed the information on the teenager’s death to a mutual friend named John Ludwick. Gabriel says that Natalee was given a date rape drug and began foaming at the mouth when Joran tried to kiss her. She choked on her own vomit and died 2-3 hours later. The informant said, “she died, and within two to three hours [Joran, with help from his late father, Paul van der Sloot] buried her.”

Five years after Natalee disappeared, Joran offered Ludwick $1,500 to dig up the Alabama teen’s body, have it cremated, and then have her ashes thrown into the sea. Gabriel reports this is what happened to her body and is the reason she was never located.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28152 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 3:16 pm to
hopefully it is her remains

I told you what some of the Arubans were telling me while i was there. Rumors and stuff about her possibly being kidnapped by vander dooosh and used as payment to Venezuela gangsters, who the duthcman owed a lot of money from gambling.

They say he was in major debt to Venezuelan gangstas.


Venezuela is only 30ish minutes West of Aruba.

Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8854 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:01 pm to
Van der Sloot murdered the girl he was shacking up with after he found that she was searching his name on the internet and had found the Natalee Holloway story.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47601 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:03 pm to
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I'm afraid the Holloway's are being taken for another ride


Could very well be, but they found someone's remains.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8854 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:54 pm to
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How the hell do investigators just pass on by a fresh grave in a park?


A version I read tonight said daterape drug, she barfed and that killed her.
Perp called his Father, the judge, and she didn't fit well in the burlap bag, so the Father stomped on her legs until they fit.

Dug a hole, stuck her in it and then planted a large cactus on top of her.

Some really ghastly specifics there, some of which forensic tests could confirm if it's her.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7883 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:57 pm to
Didn't Van Dee Sloot get shanked in prison?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30164 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Didn't Van Dee Sloot get shanked in prison?


Maybe. If he did - It didn't kill him.

I think you are thinking about Dahmer.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51880 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:19 pm to
The only time I'd punch a woman in the face is Nancy Grace
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8805 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:04 am to
WE'RE GOING TO ARUBA!
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
3363 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:01 pm to
Can't believe it's been that long. Can't imagine everything those parents have been through
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

He's in prison for killing some big headed Peruvian girl whose name no one knows because she's not a pretty white girl.

awesome Patrice O'neal Natalie Holloway bit




Patrice was an underappreciated legend. Didn't have the most groundbreaking material, but he was one of the GOAT when it came to working an audience.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47601 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:47 pm to
Daddy Holloway said he got the lead about what happened in 2015, among other leads or so it sounds. Not sure when the bones were discovered, but they know they are human bones as that test was already done. DNA results are alleged to come out in about a month. Daddy Holloway's 6 part series on Oxygen starts Saturday. Wonder if they will hold off on release of the results until his series ends unless they haven't shot the last one or two installments. It's really interesting that this series is coming out right when they found the bones or shortly thereafter. Were they filming while he was looking at these new leads over the past 18 months per Daddy Holloway and happened to luck up and find human bones?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30362 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:51 pm to
I don't know the answer to those questions but I think is pretty messed up that the Dad has made a television series out of the search for his daughters remains. That's pretty f'n pathetic.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28910 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:54 pm to
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addy Holloway's 6 part series on Oxygen starts Saturday. Wonder if they will hold off on release of the results until his series ends unless they haven't shot the last one or two installments. It's really interesting that this series is coming out right when they found the bones or shortly thereafter. Were they filming while he was looking at these new leads over?

Yeah that's got a whole lotta weird to it
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43369 posts
Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:55 pm to
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It's really interesting that this series is coming out right when they found the bones or shortly thereafter.
Almost seems too convenient tbh, not to question this man considering what he's been through.
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