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re: Update: no evidence JJ vaccine caused death of 21 year old, coroner says

Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32711 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:16 pm to
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Is this the new pivot once the vaccines are FDA approved?

The conflicting positions of these people are great.

People die of COVID

They had comorbidities!
Shouldn't be scared, there's less than a 1% chance of dying!

Vaccine is developed

I ain't takin' no government-created vaccine!
But also the FDA hasn't approved it!

Miniscule amount of people die after vaccine

Comorbidities shouldn't be considered!
Everyone should be afraid of the vaccine because there is less than a one in a million chance of dying!
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35309 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:17 pm to
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Call it what it is, a gene therapy shot.



Can we call you retarded?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:19 pm to
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Take your fear porn somewhere else.


Vaccine fear porn is retribution chic here now

Just look at all the Parler link threads. It's all the OT has become.
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
1919 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:20 pm to
Took it , no issues . Don't regret it at all
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2923 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:09 pm to

The probability of a 21 year old dying on any given day is about 0.00027% on average (based on U.S. 18-24 mortality). If there are about 4.4 million 21-year-olds, that would come out to about 12 per day that die. So, figure that it is about 10 a day, give or take a few. How many of those get the vaccine every day? Who knows? But I'm betting that 100% of the ones who die within 24 hours of getting the vaccine will have someone blame their death on the vaccine. That is probably true for all ages.

quote:

You might wish [it] didn't, but you have no way of knowing.


Neither can anyone know that it did. "Nobody knows" means nothing more than that nobody knows and isn't much of an argument for anything.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31105 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:39 pm to
I just am confused by a couple things in the statement, as they're worded weirdly.

"We know the doctors involved are doing their best." - I thought he had already passed?

"John was going to be a doctor, so this is what he would want" - What, to die in his sleep at 21?
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31105 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:40 pm to
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Call it what it is, a gene therapy shot.


Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31105 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:42 pm to
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Rushed vaccine...who knew?


Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15294 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:43 pm to
I'm not gonna lie, I'm getting the vaccine, but the Johnson & Johnson is the 1 vaccine that I absolutely did not trust and would not get.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25618 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:43 pm to
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Call it what it is, a gene therapy shot.


Please explain how the mRNA vaccines change your DNA. They explain how a viral vector vaccine like the J&J changes your DNA.



Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31105 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

The conflicting positions of these people are great.

People die of COVID

They had comorbidities!
Shouldn't be scared, there's less than a 1% chance of dying!

Vaccine is developed

I ain't takin' no government-created vaccine!
But also the FDA hasn't approved it!

Miniscule amount of people die after vaccine

Comorbidities shouldn't be considered!
Everyone should be afraid of the vaccine because there is less than a one in a million chance of dying!


Spot on
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31105 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:44 pm to
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Johnson & Johnson is the 1 vaccine that I absolutely did not trust


Why didn't you trust it?
Posted by BRBusiness
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2020
59 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:45 pm to
so does this make 7 out of 6,000,000 recipients?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62942 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:52 pm to
How many deaths shortly after the vax would be considered concerning? I don't care either way and I doubt it'll be a lot, but I feel like my who gives a frick attitude about the deaths from covid was a problem by about 10,000 deaths. And we locked shite down by about the time the 5th person died "with covid."
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7570 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 6:23 pm to
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The probability of a 21 year old dying on any given day is about 0.00027% on average (based on U.S. 18-24 mortality). If there are about 4.4 million 21-year-olds, that would come out to about 12 per day that die. So, figure that it is about 10 a day, give or take a few.


And what are the leading causes for these deaths and how many of those fall ill and die within 24 hrs? I bet the number is pretty damn close to zero statistically.

In this case, If he was healthy and a toxicology report is negative for drugs, the vaccine would be very high on the list as the primary etiology.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20497 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 6:26 pm to
Let's see....

US Covid cases 32,145,856
US Covid deaths 577,983
US Covid death % 1.8%


US Vax total 123,917,385
US Vax deaths 1
US Vax death % .0000000008%

This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 6:28 pm
Posted by RooBoy
Member since Apr 2021
396 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 7:59 pm to
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US Vax total 123,917,385
US Vax deaths 1
US Vax death % .0000000008%


These numbers are bullshite - like Pedo Joe.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62942 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:04 pm to
I don't see how you can believe both sets of numbers simultaneously.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18107 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:14 pm to
It's amazing how there's news daily of some healthyish young person dying shortly after they get a vaccine and people on this board refuse to look at Occam's Razor for the most likely cause.
Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
12022 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

US Covid cases 32,145,856
US Covid deaths 577,983
US Covid death % 1.8%


That isn't how this works. The true amount of Covid cases in the US is more than likely over 100 million. I would also argue that the death count is too high as well.
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