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re: UPDATE: Body found in Brian Laundrie search

Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by League Champs
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:33 pm to
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There are really only a couple sources information like that can come from, and none of them are supposed to be divulging that information to a television host.

John Walsh and Gabby's family are New Yorkers. They both lost a child to murder. Also, John was living about 2 hours from North Point, Fla when his son Adam was killed. I imagine he had an in with the family, once they were notified.
Posted by Crimsonite94
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:33 pm to
I’m not trolling. I was being sarcastic to all the trolls who kept saying this shite for days.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:35 pm to
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Crimsonite94
ironic the downvotes are raining down on you after the idiots who thought brian wasn't guilty clammed up in this thread
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:36 pm to
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That they are flaming


yeah that's it. Not that you actually come across as stupid.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:37 pm to
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but how can you know it's definitely a homicide if you have no idea how she died? Doesn't how she died determine if it is a homicide, lightning strike, or whatever?

TIA to those who will explain how this actually works.

They are pretty good at determining trauma and have a lot of literature to associate different types of trauma to homicides.

Like if she has a cracked skull, they can get pretty accurate of what was used. If it looks like a slender, cylindrical object, then you can rule out accidental death via rocks, for example. It's almost assuredly a homicide because of the lack of strong, slender, cylindrical objects in the area.
Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:39 pm to
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I don't know the forensic SOP's, but how can you know it's definitely a homicide if you have no idea how she died? Doesn't how she died determine if it is a homicide, lightning strike, or whatever?


At this point it’s the Coroner’s initial determination. It can change to “natural” “suicide” or “accidental” later on if the toxicology comes back with a ton of heroine, but his best opinion right now is death caused by someone else.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:39 pm to
Since so many people on here don’t seem to understand how the U.S. criminal justice system works, here is a quick overview. It seems like this may should have been posted much, much earlier in this thread. A link to a more thorough explanation is at the bottom.

How Does the Criminal Justice System Work?

Created by FindLaw's team of legal writers and editors | Last updated January 28, 2019

The criminal justice system is comprised of three major institutions which process a case from inception, through trial, to punishment. A case begins with law enforcement officials, who investigate a crime and gather evidence to identify and use against the presumed perpetrator. The case continues with the court system, which weighs the evidence to determine if the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If so, the corrections system will use the means at their disposal, namely incarceration and probation, to punish and correct the behavior of the offender.

Throughout each stage of the process, constitutional protections exist to ensure that the rights of the accused and convicted are respected. These protections balance the need of the criminal justice system to investigate and prosecute criminals with the fundamental rights of the accused (who are presumed innocent).

Criminal Justice System

Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
3356 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:39 pm to
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Heroically trying to save Gabby from a killer.



He was just running home to get the first aid kit then got sidetracked.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:40 pm to
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ironic the downvotes are raining down on you after the idiots who thought brian wasn't guilty clammed up in this thread


What's the breakdown of those that think he's not guilty and those that would rather see the evidence before hanging a guy?
Posted by TheVig10
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:40 pm to
I still don't know what to think in regards to Brian being found dead or alive.
If 75% of that reserve is under water and he killed himself he probably got eaten by a gator. Maybe they recover a gun one day?
if he is on the run, which is plausible now that we know Gabby was murdered, he has already done a good job of not being seen. There has not been a person that has seen him since the end of August (besides his parents). Going 3 plus weeks without having a human account for seeing you is hard to do if you are alive in 2021.
Posted by 0x15E
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:41 pm to
Current TFR near North Port. Valid until 7pm EDT

Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46880 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:42 pm to
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If her head is bashed in and gunshot wounds are present, they know someone killed her, but not what wounds caused her death.


ty mpkcr.

It would be easier if they said what they meant. Like if they said she had multiple gsw's, or 7 hammer dents on her head. They can figure out later which one it was that she finally succumbed to.

He still shouldn't have oughta kilt her. She mighta had some fun, sometime. Uhhmmm hunnh.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:42 pm to
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At this point it’s the Coroner’s initial determination. It can change to “natural” “suicide” or “accidental” later on if the toxicology comes back with a ton of heroine, but his best opinion right now is death caused by someone else.



Seems rather inflammatory to release an initial finding before they have completed their tests.

Be tough to walk it back if it turns up as an OD or bear attack.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:42 pm to
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Like if she has a cracked skull, they can get pretty accurate of what was used. If it looks like a slender, cylindrical object, then you can rule out accidental death via rocks, for example. It's almost assuredly a homicide because of the lack of strong, slender, cylindrical objects in the area.


Amazing that 50% of the people in this thread saw a terrified girl crying in a car for an hour and a cool psychotic dude playing the cops and the other 50% assumed rather than being scared out of her mind with psycho sitting on the curb 5 feet away staring a hole through her, that instead she was just a mentally unstable girl and that wasn't a cry for help.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:42 pm to
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I don't know the forensic SOP's, but how can you know it's definitely a homicide if you have no idea how she died? Doesn't how she died determine if it is a homicide, lightning strike, or whatever? TIA to those who will explain how this actually works.


Manner of death is different than cause I’d death. Sometimes you can determine manner before you determine cause (which seems to be the case here).

For example, if her body has signs of defensive wounds, sexual assault, indications that someone tried to hide it, etc. these all indicate manner of death is homicide. Also she may have multiple indications of blunt force trauma and strangulation. They would know it’s homicide. Just don’t know if cause was strangulation or the blunt force trauma.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93421 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:43 pm to
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Be tough to walk it back if it turns up as an OD or bear attack.


jesus christ you're a cartoon at this point
Posted by TheVig10
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
476 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:44 pm to
Brian's lawyer has a response to the news of her confirmed death......

twitter link
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:44 pm to
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constitutional protections exist to ensure that the rights of the accused and convicted are respected

Totally understand that, but it’s gut wrenching when someone is guilty but are let off because of a technicality or something.

Not saying that this would happen in Laundrie’s case.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12077 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:45 pm to
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Current TFR near North Port. Valid until 7pm EDT


Looks like things are getting too spicy for the pepper!
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6634 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:46 pm to
i think if i was him, i'd just stop posting crap
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