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re: UPDATE: Body found in Brian Laundrie search

Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:29 pm to
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I came here to get the scoop and I have to sift through pages of people arguing about police dogs.

So, how far away was the body found from the location that the van was seen in the video where people were saying somebody was out in a field?


Not far at all. Maybe 100 yards? Hard to tell, but the body was found pretty close to where the van was seen in the video.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12424 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:29 pm to
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Under what scenario is the search of federal land by a federal law enforcement agent an unlawful search?

When unconstitutionally unreliable methods are used to search it.

But not all creek beds are on on federal lands, are they? That is the specific question I was replying to.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
13385 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:29 pm to
Red, White and Bethune are doing a YouTube live right now

Red, White and Bethune YouTube
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78310 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:30 pm to
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The only thing I can think of is if he didn't try to burry the body then it should have been found sooner (depending on how remote it was)


Would think so as well. However, we don't know how long the area was searched before being found.

Maybe just no one camped close enough, wind blew in the direction away from campers, or within hours of starting the search in that area something was found.

Going back to the youtube comment from yesterday, someone mentioned the park was being searched that day and that campers realized something had been found by authorities. This was before the recent video came out.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18703 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:30 pm to
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Was wondering if he possibly did the killing, took off on a couple day hike intending to return back to the van after her body was found. He had his alibi that he was off on a hike for a couple days and then they had to prove different.

He didn't realize her body would go so long without being found and when he got back he didn't have a plan B so just left.


This is actually a pretty good theory.

I've been going over the timeline and I don't understand why they were in this area. They were at Spread Creek on 8/27 and things looked normal at the van, she (or Brian) snapchatted her friend saying she was leaving for Yellowstone, and around 10pm on 8/27 they were seen in a bar far away from Spread Creek in Ashton, asking about rentals in Island Park (this is on the way to Yellowstone)

We don't know what happened on 8/28 but she missed a meetup with a friend in Yellowstone on 8/29 and he's getting a ride around Colter Bay Village towards Jackson, freaks out when the driver gets off of 181 and takes the back way, because he probably really wants to go to Spread Creek to return to the van, which is on the way to Jackson off 181.

Do I have this right so far?

Why were they back in Spread Creek if they had already left? Did something happen on 8/28?

I'm wondering if he didn't somehow kill her or she had an accident, so he brought her back around Spread Creek as that was the nearest terrain he knew on the way back, intending to create an alibi with the hitchhiker stuff on 8/29 saying he had been hiking on his own for days.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 8:37 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:31 pm to
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When unconstitutionally unreliable methods are used to search it.
this is one of the dumbest things I’ve read in this thread
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22968 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:31 pm to
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When unconstitutionally unreliable methods are used to search it.


What are the unconstitutional or unreliable methods that were used here?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:31 pm to
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8’ or deeper. Need a backhoe or a lot of time and energy if you’re gonna dig a hole that deep
By hand. Cadaver dog may sniff it out depending on soil conditions and environmental conditions. 10’a12’ deep and you should be good.


You know this how?
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26766 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:31 pm to
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quote:
so I do not see the relevance of that question as to the boyfriend missing.


I assure you that question is relevant to how this case is being investigated.

That may very well be, but I'm not investigating the case (though I don't think her dad killed him or has him in a well like "Silence of the Lambs" waiting for answers). If the police want to speak to your son because his girlfriend is missing and he was the last one known to be with her and he has a backpack saying he is going hiking, I would think that would be a strong hint that maybe he's taking a hike and not returning. Just my opinion though.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 10:49 am
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18703 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:31 pm to
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Red, White and Bethune are doing a YouTube live right now



They're gonna milk their 30 seconds of van footage for as long as they possibly can
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12424 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:32 pm to
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What are the unconstitutional or unreliable methods that were used here?

None. We're talking about a completely hypothetical scenario about whether cadaver dogs are unconstitutionally unreliable.

Try to keep up.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 8:33 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22968 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:33 pm to
You think cadaver dogs are unconstitutional and/or unreliable?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12424 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:34 pm to
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You know this how?
It's from the Medium article based on the "study" sponsored by the cadaver dog trainers.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112845 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:35 pm to
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They're gonna milk their 30 seconds of van footage for as long as they possibly can

They should
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:35 pm to
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You think cadaver dogs are unconstitutional and/or unreliable?


Nymeria Board
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12424 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:35 pm to
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You think cadaver dogs are unconstitutional and/or unreliable?
I believe they are unreliable and should therefore be unconstitutional.

The burden is on the government to prove they are scientifically reliable, in order for them to be used. They have not, by any measure of scientific reliability.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 8:37 pm
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
56191 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:35 pm to
These kind of things usually end up being the real story...and that is how the OT cracks cases. We brainstorm theories and ask questions.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:35 pm to
That guy looks miserable

What is the point of this YouTube video?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:36 pm to
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I believe they are unreliable
Why?

quote:

should therefore be unconstitutional.
Just blanket unconstitutional. What does that mean?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78310 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:37 pm to
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What is the point of this YouTube video?


Looks like to raise money for themselves
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