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re: UPDATE: Body found in Brian Laundrie search
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:37 pm to efrad
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:37 pm to efrad
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I've been going over the timeline and I don't understand why they were in this area. They were at Spread Creek on 8/27 and things looked normal at the van, she (or Brian) snapchatted her friend saying she was leaving for Yellowstone, and around 10pm on 8/27 they were seen in a bar far away from Spread Creek in Ashton, asking about rentals in Island Park.
We don't know what happened on 8/28 but she missed a meetup with a friend in Yellowstone on 8/29 and he's getting a ride around Colter Bay Village towards Jackson, freaks out when the driver gets off of 181 and takes the back way, because he probably really wants to go to Spread Creek to return to the van, which is on the way to Jackson off 181.
Do I have this right so far?
Why were they back in Spread Creek if they had already left? Did something happen on 8/28?
I'm wondering if he didn't somehow kill her or she had an accident, so he brought her back around Spread Creek as that was the nearest terrain he knew on the way back, intending to create an alibi with the hitchhiker stuff on 8/29 saying he had been hiking on his own for days.
Or the eyewitness testimony is inaccurate and he she died near where the body was found and BL took off for Florida soon after.
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:38 pm to SCUBAislander
That link says 9hrs ago
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:38 pm to WDE24
There is more evidence suggesting it is unreliable bullshite than not. Also, the government has the burden of proving their scientific methods of investigation are valid. They simply haven't in terms of using cadaver dogs to subvert PC.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:39 pm to pioneerbasketball
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You know this how?
How do we know anything? How does Diamonddog know a human anus can stretch 7 inches before tearing?
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:40 pm to fightin tigers
They are raising money for mental health. Why jump to conclusions immediately? FWIW they said they do a youtube live every sunday night
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:41 pm to redstick13
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Or the eyewitness testimony is inaccurate
Any piece of the eyewitness stories prove inaccurate and the whole timeline changes.
Even if the "back in Fla Sept 1" is wrong
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:41 pm to Gravitiger
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My example was talking about finding an actual dead missing body out in the woods. Like in this case.
So as long as you find the evidence, how you find it is de facto constitutional?
Tell me how it is wrong when searching for a known missing person/body?
You are going way off the rails here.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:42 pm to pioneerbasketball
quote:
You know this how?
I’ve buried a few things in my day. Few people ever seem to dig the hole deep enough. Regardless of what they’re burying.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:42 pm to Gravitiger
quote:To whom? What is the standard? Who determines it? At what point?
The government has the burden of proving their scientific methods of investigation are valid.
quote:If they prove reliability, how is it subverting PC?
They simply haven't in terms of using cadaver dogs to subvert PC.
What about when PC isn’t needed for a search?
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:42 pm to redstick13
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Or the eyewitness testimony is inaccurate and he she died near where the body was found and BL took off for Florida soon after.
There's a chance it could be inaccurate, but the van was spotted in Spread Creek on 8/27 around 6-6:30 and Gabby (or Brian pretending to be her) snapchatted her friend about heading to Yellowstone.
If it were Gabby who sent the snapchat, they likely did actually leave.
If it were Brian who sent the snapchat, Brian likely wouldn't want to send that kind of message because her friend would then be expecting her at Yellowstone soon. Unless as fightin tigers suggested, he wanted the body to be found.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:44 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I’ve buried a few things in my day. Few people
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:45 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I’ve buried a few things in my day. Few people ever seem to dig the hole deep enough. Regardless of what they’re burying.
I'm guessing the historical norm of burying people 6 feet down came about for a reason.
Probably deep enough that animals won't dig them up.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:45 pm to efrad
Would be interesting to know the snapchat. Brian could have been padding his alibi if it insinuated Gabby was going to Yellowstone by herself and would meet up with Brian later.
That would make it look like Gabby was confirming his hike through the woods.
That would make it look like Gabby was confirming his hike through the woods.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:46 pm to WDE24
quote:The federal court system. By the Daubert rule.
To whom? What is the standard? Who determines it? At what point?
quote:They haven't proved reliability. Therefore it is subverting PC.
If they prove reliability, how is it subverting PC?
quote:The exceptions to PC typically wouldn't involve the use of cadaver dogs. But I would also apply the same standard of scientific reliability to reasonable suspicion exceptions.
What about when PC isn’t needed for a search?
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:48 pm to Gravitiger
quote:Have any courts applied the Daubert rule and allowed testimony by cadaver dog handlers?
The the judge. By the Daubert rule.
What about when paining a warrant based on PC? Have any judges accepted findings from cadaver dogs to issue warrants?
quote:They have sufficiently for some judges.
They haven't proved reliability.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:49 pm to WDE24
I believe those courts are wrong. I think I have made that clear.
If you think federal judges always accurately interpret the Constitution or understand scientific evidence, I think our discussion is effectively over.
If you think federal judges always accurately interpret the Constitution or understand scientific evidence, I think our discussion is effectively over.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:50 pm to fightin tigers
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Looks like to raise money for themselves
That’s what I figured
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:50 pm to WDE24
Gravitiger just uses these huge threads to antagonize folks and up her post count
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:50 pm to Gravitiger
Well lol. The courts make the call, not you.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:51 pm to SpotCheckBilly
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Not far at all. Maybe 100 yards? Hard to tell, but the body was found pretty close to where the van was seen in the video.
I measured it on Google maps, 1000 ft from their van, 500 ft from the nearest camp site directly across the creek bed.
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