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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder

Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:49 pm to
Point taken, but skimpy clothes aren’t illegal. In most places, pandhandling is.

Although if the above is true, victim wasn’t a panhandler, so I guess that whole possibility is out anyway.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:50 pm to
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Damn, nice addition. Basically what's being reported. Guy was known in the area, just minding his own business.


There are multiple statements saying he may have actually been trying to help the woman out. I stop at that smoothie king right there sometimes for my walk back. He was always out in that area the past year or so. There is no way that guy picked a fight with Ward.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:53 pm to
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In most places, pandhandling is.


Not in New Orleans.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:53 pm to
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There are multiple statements saying he may have actually been trying to help the woman out. I stop at that smoothie king right there sometimes for my walk back. He was always out in that area the past year or so. There is no way that guy picked a fight with Ward.


This is what I believe.

I'm assuming it's not unusual to see a man of his age and condition out and about at that time of the night in that area? Certainly there could be several reasons for that, but just curious if you think that matters at all.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 10:56 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:54 pm to
Good question, and there is no right answer unfortunately. But If life was 50 years, I’d probably shave off 5-10 years if the victim verbally/aggressively instigated the fight.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:05 pm to
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Good question, and there is no right answer unfortunately. But If life was 50 years, I’d probably shave off 5-10 years if the victim verbally/aggressively instigated the fight.


Thanks for the reply, I knew it wasn't something you would likely be comfortable nailing down exactly, just was curious if you felt it was 5 years or 25 years off.


Back to the thread in general. If Red is indeed a nice old man that everyone knew and gave nobody grief, sort of a neighborhood "mascot" (for lack of a better word and I think we have all known someone like this), I think the hole just got deeper for Ward.

In the end I don't think we are going to get satisfaction here and will be left short of completion. This will end in a plea to manslaughter and we won't get the 1000 pages of banter a trial would provide. Unless something changes that results in a reduction in the charges the prosecution would pursue at trial there is no way Ward chances a guilty verdict that results in a life w/o sentance.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:16 pm to
You have lost your mind. You're trying to hard to tilt this in wards favor without explicitly doing so. It's bizarre. Aggressively panhandling?
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:18 pm to
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Jesus Christ....... Arnold Jackson wasn’t a fricking panhandler. He was known around that area as he would walk that area daily. I jog the neutral ground in the evenings from the Ponchatrain Expy to Napoleon. I’ve seen him out there a bunch of times. He’s usually just by himself or talking to the bell staff at Hotel Indigo. He was quite frail too. I don’t believe for a second that he started anything with Ward. There’s a woman that was mentioned by every witness so far. Ward better hope she’s on his side or she’s going to send him to jail for a long time.


This.

We own rental property in that area and there are bunch of cops who live in that area and would know him.

I would wager if it goes to trial they will bring in nopd who knew him as a character witness for the murdered dude.

Ward is fricked.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 11:20 pm
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:23 pm to
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Which means if this mugging story is being told to police, the evidence didn't support it.



I'm reading through the 20+ pages that popped up, but wanted to note that if he gave a statement saying he was robbed, and the police didn't believe him, it'd be written in the warrant. He probably didn't say anything.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:25 pm to
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I'm reading through the 20+ pages that popped up, but wanted to note that if he gave a statement saying he was robbed, and the police didn't believe him, it'd be written in the warrant. He probably didn't say anything



Only need to read last 10 really. The mugging story was only brought up on here and people who live in the area and know of the man have said that's ludicrous.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:27 pm to
This thread had Jackson pegged as an aggressive panhandler that tried to mug Ward.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:30 pm to
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This thread had Jackson pegged as an aggressive panhandler that tried to mug Ward.


Yes, a few were proposing that but nothing reported makes that believable at all. Even without your own personal account it seemed ridiculous to believe.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:35 pm to
Surely some of his friends know who he was down there with, what female he was supposedly in a fight with, what he’s said since the incident to friends, etc. I find it hard to believe his side of the story is simply non-existent. Maybe I just haven’t searched enough.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:37 pm to
There has been nothing from Ward’s side and if he has any shot in hell he needs to keep it that way.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:38 pm to
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Surely some of his friends know who he was down there with, what female he was supposedly in a fight with, what he’s said since the incident to friends, etc. I find it hard to believe his side of the story is simply non-existent. Maybe I just haven’t searched enough.



Friends said his gf wasn't there. If there was a girl it could have been a new girl picked up from the party he was at or just a random girl on the street he encountered in his drunken state.


I think the presence of a girl would make ward look a lot worse if he was in an altercation with her, but I don't think it would change his sentencing.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79993 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:40 pm to
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he has a potential psychotic tendency
He's not psychotic and what he did isn't going to intimidate many prisoners.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:40 pm to
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There's lots of nefarious looking people in the world, but I can't just attack them because of what I think they could do.


Are you not familiar with the patriot act, baw?
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:42 pm to
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Red's criminal history


Nothing.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:44 pm to
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Are you not familiar with the patriot act, baw?


Are you talking about this?
LINK


Found this funny edit included:


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One provision of the act, unnoticed for several years, became a controversial issue nationwide in 2007 after it was discovered a section of the act titled “Patriot Surveillance and Strategy” gave Bill Belichick absolute power to record and monitor conversations anywhere within the U.S. borders. The origin of this specific provision remains unknown to this day. The house and senate worked quickly to remove the provision shortly after being discovered in 2007. In 2016 the Federal Bureau released statements revealing there is still an ongoing investigation into the release of several other acts and the possibility of Bill Belichick’s involvement. Belichick denies any knowledge of the provision.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:44 pm to
Sounds like Ward was drunk on some absinthe or something.
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