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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder

Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:34 pm to
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"Mr. Ward, who appeared to be drunk according to (the witness), jumped up from his stoop and began throwing several punches at Mr. Jackson's head. Mr. Ward was yelling unknown terms and Mr. Jackson was only trying to protect himself," the warrant states


Yeah there isn’t really any explanation for this. Don’t know why anyone would behave in such a manner. Good riddance.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:37 pm to
So we’ve had witness claim that the victim was attacked while breaking up a dispute between Garrett and an unknown female

Now we have a witness claiming that Garrett got up from sitting on a tree stoop to randomly attack this man

What’s next?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:39 pm to
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So we’ve had witness claim that the victim was attacked while breaking up a dispute between Garrett and an unknown female

Now we have a witness claiming that Garrett got up from sitting on a tree stoop to randomly attack this man

What’s next?



And both scenarios make Ward look even worse than the initial report.

I don't get your point. In both accounts he is the aggressor.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:45 pm to
I’d really like to believe I live in a world where 25 year old guys who seem to have their shite together professionally and have a lot to lose don’t go around saying “hey old man catch these frickin hands! Where do I got my shoes now you dumb bastard??? That’s right! On your fricking face!”

But maybe I’m a Pollyanna
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:47 pm to
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I’d really like to believe I live in a world where 25 year old guys who seem to have their shite together professionally and have a lot to lose don’t go around saying “hey old man catch these frickin hands! Where do I got my shoes now you dumb bastard??? That’s right! On your fricking face!”

But maybe I’m a Pollyanna



Maybe the guy has had everything or many things go his way instead of gaining anything he has through character and merit. I think someone in the thread said something about him mostly likely having an "in" at Latter & Blum to get a nice job like that. Guy knew how to shake hands whether he deserved it or not if I had to guess.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 9:48 pm
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:48 pm to
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every person ever convicted of a crime is like this



Perhaps -- but most of them quickly accept their fate. This guy's family/friends actually believe that it'll happen and that he'll get off with a slap on the wrist. They're still in the "I can't believe this happened"/"surely something can be done" denial stage.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:49 pm to
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Williams wrote in the murder warrant that one of the witnesses who police interviewed said Ward was "sitting outside on a tree stump when the victim (Mr. Jackson) was casually walking down the street minding his own business." "Mr. Ward, who appeared to be drunk according to (the witness), jumped up from his stoop and began throwing several punches at Mr. Jackson's head. Mr. Ward was yelling unknown terms and Mr. Jackson was only trying to protect himself," the warrant states


Is the murders buddy still around? Wasp? Where ya at mon frere? Care to comment about occams razor again?
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:51 pm to
All I did was include a story I just read. No real point other than noticing the pretty big discrepancy between the two witnesses.
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:51 pm to
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Not racists, but they wouldn't take kindly to slandering Mr. Jackson absent of facts. I know lawyers sometimes can get a little "theatrical" when trying to portray the defendant or prosecution as a monster or the opposite as a harmless individual.



Interested to see Red's criminal history, because no matter how minor it may be, it'll definitely be used against him.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Is the murders buddy still around? Wasp? Where ya at mon frere? Care to comment about occams razor again?


Why would his story change? This witness report has been out since this morning....
Posted by reggielendale
Member since Jan 2006
1103 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:52 pm to
And if this guy try some blackout defense that certainly won’t serve him well. Because that will not jive with any reports that he feared for his life or was being mugged. You know, because he would have no memory of that to report.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:52 pm to
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And both scenarios make Ward look even worse than the initial report.

I don't get your point. In both accounts he is the aggressor.


If one witness says Ward jumped up from a stump and beat Jackson for no reason, and one witness says he was beating a woman and Jackson intervened, those are two completely different stories, that would discredit each witness almost in entirety

I beleive that is the point

The prosecution is not going to bring forth witnesses that tell conflicting stories

However, I beleive the woman beating story is completely fabricated, as nothing has been brought forth at all from the cops regarding this
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:53 pm to
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Interested to see Red's criminal history, because no matter how minor it may be, it'll definitely be used against him.


Is ward a fricking walking criminal record database?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:53 pm to
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All I did was include a story I just read. No real point other than noticing the pretty big discrepancy between the two witnesses.




Even without the eye witness testimonies you have :

1. Guy dead specifically from blunt force trauma to head

2. Perp with blood on both hands and found running from the scene

At the minimum all the witnesses admit they saw the perp hitting on the victim.


The discrepancies might not make any difference at all.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 9:56 pm
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
5417 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:55 pm to
dude, I'm with you on this. I agree with everything you've said 100%.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9373 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:55 pm to
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'2", 220lbs, and killed someone with his bare hands and feet 


I think he is pretty damn cut out for it 



He beat a sick 60 year old man.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111518 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:57 pm to
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The discrepancies might not make any difference at all.
They absolutely would, and have. You don't want yout witnesses to have different events of what happened

However, we still have not seen any report at all from the nopd that mentions woman beating. Only the family has said that
Posted by the paradigm
Moon Township, PA
Member since Sep 2017
5417 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:57 pm to
That's the point I was trying to make earlier ... as if any inmate will be intimidated because he killed a decrepit 60-year old
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:57 pm to
I'm sure they'll try to bring it in if he has one. I would doubt it would be effective even if it were to be admissable.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 9:57 pm
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45903 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 9:57 pm to
Yeah..this guy is going away for a while unless Lindsey Williams finds something major in discovery

Video, other witnesses..literally nothing is in wards favor at the moment
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 9:59 pm
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