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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder

Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by lsufan112001
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:45 pm to
Well shite, I’ll check back in after 100 pages
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:47 pm to
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Of course they would.

What do you think an investigation is? Are you sure they haven’t uncovered more info they aren’t releasing?

The families story is "the witnesses and investigators told them Red was stoping Ward from beating a woman"

They said that two days ago


The NOPD released info to the media this morning saying red was attacked for "no apparent reason" as "he was walking down the street minding his own business"


If the family was telling the truth, the investigators would have had this info already....
Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

tgrbaitn08

You’re being obtuse if your argument is based on the comparison of a white male wearing a suit to the black guy in that picture. That’s obviously a flawed comparison.

Honestly, your comparision actually portrays a very clear picture of how you perceive race and their cultures/stereotypes
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Honestly, your comparision actually portrays a very clear picture of how you perceive race and their cultures/stereotypes
That is what I said earlier

Slackster, and tgrbait, are the ones that actually let their preconceived bias about race come out, as they are speaking down to others claiming they are
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:50 pm
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:50 pm to
You really have no idea how shite works.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:50 pm to
So either he was beating a woman and then turned on a frail old man and killed him for intervening

Or

He killed a frail old man that was walking down the street minding his own business for no apparent reason.

Pick your poison.
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:52 pm to
You forgot all the jr Lawyers down voting everyone's opinion.

I posted a definition (from a dictionary) of manslaughter and got 12 down votes

idiots
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

You really have no idea how shite works.
so this is what you are saying is happening if the family is telling the truth:

The NOPD heard from the witnessess that Red intervened to stop Ward from beating a woman

the nopd let the family know this

The NOPD then decides to release to the media the attack happened for no reason as red was minding his own business walking down the street

The NOPD will then later come out, with info they have been having since before the earlier report, and contradict what was earlier released by them and say red intervened to stop the beating




That is what you are saying correct?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:55 pm to

This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:56 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

So either he was beating a woman and then turned on a frail old man and killed him for intervening

Or

He killed a frail old man that was walking down the street minding his own business for no apparent reason.


Pick your poison.
I have said since this morning, that this is actually worse for Ward
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

I have said since this morning, that this is actually worse for Ward


Actually I think it’s better for him, because he can claim insanity.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

wondering if the old not-so preppy (and dead) black man was as innocent as portrayed. Maybe he attacked first? Maybe he had a gun or said he did? Maybe he knew Kung-Fu and that young preppy white man had to fight for his life and got in one lucky shot that triggered an to this point unknown and undiagnosed heart condition or brain aneurysm. We're just asking questions here!


I see a lot of this when someone tries to cliff note the thread, but I really haven't seen a lot of that actually in the thread. I see some folks w personal knowledge of the perp basically saying it is hard to fathom him doing this. All the quoted type of stuff is mostly in response to questions asking them to provide a theoretical explanation as to how the perp could have killed the victim while being something less than a TPOS. Then, a scenario is put forth, generally with a caveat of ' I don't really believe that this happened'.

Then argument ad nauseum ensues with one side saying 'that isn't what happened and you are only saying it cuz he's white' and the other side saying ' well, you asked me how a guy could kick an old man to death and have it be justified, here is a reason.'

You know, like most arguments about race or politics. People talking about different things on each side.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35884 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

The NOPD then decides to release to the media the attack happened for no reason as red was minding his own business walking down the street



Sure. Maybe they want to treat the media like mushrooms: feed them shite, keep them the dark.

Maybe the DA told them to give the media something, but not too much.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:02 pm to
This kid will go down for Manslaughter.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:03 pm to
I agree..very clear.

This is a clear tangent but humans detect patterns. Where people of higher intellect can detect patterns of more intricacy.

If a movie theatre is shot up, I automatically assume it’s by a white male. If someone is mugged in New Orleans, I automatically assume it’s by a black male.

Does that make me racist? I don’t think so.

Do patterns always hold true? No they don’t.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29622 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

This kid will go down for Manslaughter.


He'll get 10 years, do 5 and then get a civil suit for wrongful death.

No different than someone getting in a car drunk and killing someone.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

You forgot all the jr Lawyers down voting everyone's opinion.

I posted a definition (from a dictionary) of manslaughter and got 12 down votes

idiots


You clearly displayed that you didn't understand the difference between manslaughter and 2nd degree murder. Thus the downvotes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Where people of higher intellect can detect patterns of more intricacy.


anyone who sits and studies a situation can detect more intricate patterns. However, all people have human biases and act upon them initially as a filter. It's a survival technique
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

He'll get 10 years, do 5 and then get a civil suit for wrongful death.
I just dont see it.

Unless these witnesses are friend of Jackson and completely non-credible, Ward is toast for alot longer than that
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10403 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:12 pm to
“Anyone” includes many people.

I’ve seen very intelligent people quickly detect a pattern that the majority of the population would consistently overlook.

I agree with everything else you said
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