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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:31 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:31 pm to lsupride87
Gotcha. I was under the impression a warrant is isssed when someone is wanted in connection of a crime and hasn’t been arrested yet.
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:31 pm to slackster
Whoever started this thread needs to do some G dam cliff notes
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:33 pm to tgrbaitn08
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as well as other paperwork supplied by NOPD..
FYI, this means a gist and a warrant. She (or anyone else, including his atty) won't see the report until the DA indicts. At that point, his attorney will have access through discovery. Public won't.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:36 pm to tLSU
quote:Can you answer my question on the top of the page? TIA
FYI, this means a gist and a warrant. She (or anyone else, including his atty) won't see the report until the DA indicts. At that point, his attorney will have access through discovery. Public won't.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:46 pm to lsupride87
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would you consider this normal? Would you think the original warrant would make no mention whatsoever of witnesses telling police that ward was beating on a female?
Yes very typical especially for Orleans Parish.
Don't know why they feel the need to mention this in the original warrant because all you need is the basic minimal information needed to meet all the elements to charge.
The extra curricular info will be presented at trial. I would be willing to be that the woman left the scene and only reappeared after she found out through the media stories.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:04 pm to lsupride87
You're drafting the application to establish probable cause for the instant arrest. If you aren't intending to arrest for battery of a female, it's not relevant to the warrant app. If you don't have the female or can't identify her, there's no way to arrest him for that.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:08 pm to tLSU
Wouldn't the fact your same eye witnesses saying the attack started because ward was beating a female help in your assertation of probable cause, as that would show Ward was the aggressor and not in any form of self defense?
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:14 pm to lsupride87
Also, tlsu, this has come out as well
So police have given documentation that Jackson was attacked for no apparant reason, after walking down the street casually
In your opinion, I can't imagine they would release that info, and then later contradict themselves and say he confronted Ward for beating a female
Is that logic sound?
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In documents that cite several eyewitnesses, New Orleans police allege that a visibly drunk and agitated Ward punched and kicked Jackson after 1 a.m. on Jan. 6 in the 2000 block of St. Charles Avenue for "no apparent reason."
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The first responders found Jackson with a disfigured jaw and blood coming from his mouth as he moaned for help, according to court records. Those records said Jackson, by all indications, had been "casually walking down the street" when he was accosted.
So police have given documentation that Jackson was attacked for no apparant reason, after walking down the street casually
In your opinion, I can't imagine they would release that info, and then later contradict themselves and say he confronted Ward for beating a female
Is that logic sound?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:19 pm to tgrbaitn08
I can't imagine the prosecution would like to have witnesses saying they saw completely different things 
They don't need ward to have beat a woman for their case, so the fact the released documents today saying ward attacked for "no reason" and Jackson was "just walking down the street when he was attacked", I would imagine they want the family to stay quiet bringing up other stories
They don't need ward to have beat a woman for their case, so the fact the released documents today saying ward attacked for "no reason" and Jackson was "just walking down the street when he was attacked", I would imagine they want the family to stay quiet bringing up other stories
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:29 pm to lsupride87
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lsupride87
Why can’t you grasp the concept that motives and reasons don’t belong on an arrest warrant, only the act belongs?
It’s not a hard concept.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:34 pm to magildachunks
quote:Ok
Why can’t you grasp the concept that motives and reasons don’t belong on an arrest warrant, only the act belongs?
It’s not a hard concept.
Please explain why the police would document this:
quote:
In documents that cite several eyewitnesses, New Orleans police allege that a visibly drunk and agitated Ward punched and kicked Jackson after 1 a.m. on Jan. 6 in the 2000 block of St. Charles Avenue for "no apparent reason."
quote:
The first responders found Jackson with a disfigured jaw and blood coming from his mouth as he moaned for help, according to court records. Those records said Jackson, by all indications, had been "casually walking down the street" when he was accosted.
Yall are ignoring the fact they didnt just leave it off the warrant, they have also released documentation contradicting the woman beating story
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:37 pm to lsupride87
What records are those?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:38 pm to magildachunks
quote:Documentation obtained by the local news from the NOPD
hat records are those?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:39 pm to lsupride87
I guess that blows up your theory about Red having a gun.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:40 pm to lsupride87
What documentation? A preliminary report? Final report?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:41 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:Excuse me?
I guess that blows up your theory about Red having a gun.
Sometimes I think you read different threads I never had a theory red had a gun
I said the only way Ward could actually get off, is if he convinces the jury Red told him he had a gun and was going to shoot him.
Seriously, do you even try and read my posts?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:42 pm to lsufan112001
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cliff notes
Young preppy white man beats old not-so-preppy black man to death.
Young preppy white man charged with 2nd degree murder, turns himself in and bonds out (95% sure about the "bonds out" part)
75+ pages of various "devil's advocates" wondering if the old not-so preppy (and dead) black man was as innocent as portrayed. Maybe he attacked first? Maybe he had a gun or said he did? Maybe he knew Kung-Fu and that young preppy white man had to fight for his life and got in one lucky shot that triggered an to this point unknown and undiagnosed heart condition or brain aneurysm. We're just asking questions here!
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:42 pm to magildachunks
quote:The NOPD will release snippits of info to the news agencies they have good relationships with.
What documentation? A preliminary report? Final report?
The fact they released info saying what they did, they arent later going to come out with information conflicting their own reports later.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:45 pm to lsupride87
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The fact they released info saying what they did, they arent later going to come out with information conflicting their own reports.
Of course they would.
What do you think an investigation is? Are you sure they haven’t uncovered more info they aren’t releasing?
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