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re: UPDATE 4/26 -Just In Case the OT Didn't Know - The UK is murdering a little baby right now

Posted on 4/26/18 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 6:48 pm to
The comments on articles posted by BBC or the Guardian are astounding

Utmost devotion to the state’s ability to decide cases like these and it’s ultimate authority to hold a child hostage from his parents. The Brits are lost.

Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7659 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 6:59 pm to
I really have no respect for those people. And I've never been happier to live in America.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6946 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:51 pm to
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Is this that same one that's been brain dead????? The parents are nutcases and irrational


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Checks out, this is just a spam post everyone....carry on
Posted by dawgM2
MS
Member since Jan 2013
4265 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:20 pm to
This is utterly disturbing
Posted by Lookin4Par
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jun 2012
1232 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 4:31 am to
Prayers for that little boy! I squeezed my kids a little tighter last night just thinking of the terror that these parents are going through.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2288 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:25 am to
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The comments on articles posted by BBC or the Guardian are astounding


I was thinking "I'm going to go over there and read the comments. How bad can it be"?

Those comments are so bad I almost think they might be put there by the government to sway public opinion. If that's not the case then I guess that's the mentality you get growing up as a subject instead of a citizen.

A citizen owns his destiny to some extent and a subject doesn't.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
80873 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:27 am to
Honestly, that's why I think some of the Americans protesting and writing letters are being ridiculous.

It's their country, they've chosen to live this way. I obviously disagree with it, but I don't really ask for their input on our gun crime issues, either.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3541 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:39 am to
LINK

It happens in the USA too
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:42 am to

Is he still hanging on?
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19434 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:45 am to
They have shut down updates from the parents. A sick maneuver by the government to use permission to release Alfie to go home as a bargaining chip to force the parents to stand down the mass uprising.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:01 am to
still alive and stable and still being held hostage
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11927 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:43 am to
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They have shut down updates from the parents. A sick maneuver by the government to use permission to release Alfie to go home as a bargaining chip to force the parents to stand down the mass uprising.
But the propaganda machine is still in full force from Dear Savior Government.
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The 23-month-old baby has been surviving by himself for the last four days as his dad, Tom Evans, has demanded the hospital allow him to take his boy elsewhere.

However, several court appeals have been rejected - the most recent one stopping Alfie from travelling to Italy.

And on This Morning today, two doctors told Eamonn Holmes and Ruth Langsford about the damaging nature of the protests.

Dr Samantha Batt-Rawden told them: "I am heartbroken for the parents - but what I found difficult is hearing the reports coming about the staff [at Alder Hey Hospital]."
Can you believe this shite?!?
They are murdering a 2 year old, but she's most bothered by the staffs' feelings!!!!

And the loyal subjects seem to Agree!?!?!????!???
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And This Morning vieweres were parising Ranj for speaking out against the protestors on Twitter.

"completely agree." "someone makes sense." "have some respect for others." etc..
Lol. the lunacy.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11927 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:52 am to
If you are a UK citizen, you better hope to God that your child isn't born with something the UK doctors don't already know how to fix.
They won't let you get second opinions. They won't let you go elsewhere for treatment. They just decide to cut off your life support.

Can you honestly believe the arrogance and totalitarianism in all of this?

Parents in the UK have given over their rights in the guardianship of their kids in these situations in exchange for state run healthcare.
And we are now seeing the folly of that now in these cases.
It infuriates me so much.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
109359 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:56 am to
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still alive and stable and still being held hostage


fricking sickening.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11927 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:59 am to
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"Any parent in the world who's got a child that's sick would move heaven and earth if somebody else could offer them a different treatment.

"Yet what happens here is our state-run medical system decides there's nothing else that can be done and backed up by the state courts, they make a decision that those parents are not fit to move their child somewhere else.

"It's classic of the establishment closing ranks, the state being all powerful.

"And frankly what is happening today and what is happening right now is a form of state-sponsored euthanasia and I hate it."
- Nigel Farage

Who knew a movie from 2005 would be so damned prophetic.

This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 11:05 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29895 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:59 am to
Is he bran dead? Conscious?
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11927 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:14 am to
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Is he bran dead? Conscious?
He's been sedated for almost 17 months while they search for what is wrong with him.
He came in with a chest infection, developed some form of epilepsy, and they have no clue what's wrong.

Now, he has not come out of the coma since they induced it... and have been waiting for the MRI to wane until they can claim it's time to put him down.
Meanwhile, the parents have been begging for months and months to get him home to have private doctors help... or move him abroad to seek other medical care.
They've always been denied. As soon as he stepped into the hospital, he became a ward of the state.

They have never been able to find a diagnosis and he's deteriorated the whole time they've kept him.
The dad claims a misdiagnosis (i.e. it's not some "unknown genetic neuro degredation").
But now, he's just asking for him to be released to them at their home or allowed to go to Italy for palliative care.
The state rejected both.

The hospital doctors were given permission to deny ventilator, food, and water... or even euthanize the kid under the "best interests" test.
Only after he was still alive for a day did they give him water and oxygen. And waited even longer to give him food.
If I did that, I'd be in jail.
But... it's ok b/c it's the state. "And they know best."
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
72620 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:18 am to
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What a piece of shite you must be irl.


edit: a miserable piece of shite



Oh come off it, emotion appeal is a fallacy. If I'm going to bitch about people screaming think about the children constantly, I'm going to be irritated at an insanely biased and over dramatic description of events.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
72620 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:21 am to
Insane they aren't feeding the kid, and insane they won't let the parents take him to Italy. Kudos on the Italians for standing up.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11927 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:48 am to
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Kudos on the Italians for standing up.
Polish, too. Germans offered to help, I think.
Lots of protestors, but they've got no power.

A few British kids have recently been in the same situation.
One family kidnapped the kid and got treatment in Europe. That kid is fine, now.
One family wasn't able to take the kid to the USA. He didn't make it.
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