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re: update - Kenner Raising Cane's robbed, 21-YO manager stabbed - has passed away

Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:12 pm to
Wonder if he voluntarily quit working at Canes or was terminated and if she was involved with the termination?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:14 pm to
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MJ2 is a piece of shite racist

A sweet hard working young white girl was brutally murdered most likely because she was white in the wrong place at the wrong time and all you can come up with is this?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19835 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:14 pm to
No. It's actually pretty damn close to the truth.
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:15 pm to
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This is so misguided it's scary.


Except it's true. An attorney's sole duty is to his or her client. Prosecutors want convictions; they don't care about actual guilt. Therefore they force defense attorneys to take the same unyielding stance.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86052 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:17 pm to
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Except it's true. An attorney's sole duty is to his or her client. Prosecutors want convictions; they don't care about actual guilt. Therefore they force defense attorneys to take the same unyielding stance.

I thought the original intent of the entire system was to bring about justice? By both sides.
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:20 pm to
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thought the original intent of the entire system was to bring about justice? By both sides.


The intent? Of course.

But the reality is that DA's run for office based on their conviction rates and being "tough on crime". Voters don't seem to care that some of those convicts might not have been guilty
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10771 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:36 pm to
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Believe me, our judicial system is screwed BEYOND redemption


Oh, I know all too well. I'm not in the judicial system, per se, but I'm around cops, lawyers and judges on a regular basis. They're all part of the same group. It's a steady revenue stream for all them. Incarcerated criminals don't benefit them. It's a revolving door. Federal and state funding, court costs, fines, attorney fees, etc.

I hate to take this discussion to another place, but doing away with the draconian drug laws would be a big step. That would free up jail space and court resources to go after the real criminals... but then there goes their surest source of revenue.

It's all about the money.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72311 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:44 pm to
I don't typically prefer the death penalty, but if it's absolutely positive you have the right people (video and everything) and it's this absurd then I think it's very justified.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9766 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:45 pm to
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I hate to take this discussion to another place, but doing away with the draconian drug laws would be a big step. That would free up jail space and court resources to go after the real criminals... but then there goes their surest source of revenue.

It's all about the money.


I never understand where the money comes from though. So they arrest a bunch a people that just spent their last nickel on some drugs, it just seems like there is no money to get.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:49 pm to
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I don't typically prefer the death penalty, but if it's absolutely positive you have the right people (video and everything) and it's this absurd then I think it's very justified.



i've always agreed with this ... don't use it unless there's some type of overwhelming evidence, but fast-track the appeals process ...
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86052 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:51 pm to
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The intent? Of course.


Gotcha. You agree then, the current system of attorneys trying to win, no matter the truth, is in no way what was intended to represent our justice system?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21693 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:54 pm to
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never understand where the money comes from though. So they arrest a bunch a people that just spent their last nickel on some drugs, it just seems like there is no money to get.


Do me a favor. Google civil asset forfeiture.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73188 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:04 pm to
It is about justice, but also the right to a fair trial. A competent attorney is part of that trial.

If an attorney turned on a client during trial and flipped to the prosecutor's side, that would not be a "fair" trial.

The system sucks, but it's better than other systems.
Look at Norway. Kill 75 people and get 23 years in prison, and then win a six figure settlement against the government for keeping you isolated for too long.

Or look at other nations where sentence is carried out after trial. Who cares if they are innocent or not.



Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73188 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:06 pm to
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So they arrest a bunch a people that just spent their last nickel on some drugs, it just seems like there is no money to get.



family pays to get them out of jail, state pays local parish if they keep them in. There is money made on both sides.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86052 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:12 pm to
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If an attorney turned on a client during trial and flipped to the prosecutor's side, that would not be a "fair" trial.


Absolutely. No way should an attorney turn on a client during a trial. That's not what I'm saying by any means.

Both sides can seek out justice, and a fair trial can still be had. (I believe).

My question to you is this. If you are an attorney, and you know for a fact your client is guilty. Let's say he admits to you that he is guilty. Should you lie to the court and jurors, and say that he is not?

In the same way, if you are a prosecutor, and you know that someone else committed the crime and the person accused is innocent, do you still argue to convict him?
Posted by AintBigButItsPretty
Member since Mar 2011
942 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:15 pm to
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Do me a favor. Google civil asset forfeiture.

Bahahah .001 percent of arrests actually have a civil forfeiture attached and if they have nothing, like the previous poster said, what are they seizing exactly?
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:27 pm to
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Do me a favor. Google civil asset forfeiture.


I appreciate the fact that abuse of civil asset forfeiture laws occur in the U.S., but I don't think this is the problem in the New Orleans area.

The Governor and the legislature taking time to do their bullshite eliminate the box, and lower the age to be tried as an adult legislation is a problem.

The mayor of New Orleans spending money on nonsense programs like his cable tv program, the gang outreach and other NOLA 4 Life grants when the cops are bled for money.

The Jefferson Parish Sheriff taking time out to defend sanctuary cities.

The media may be the worst of the bunch.

Nola and the times picayune is horse shite.

At least the Advocate did some decent reporting today, but it will be matched by some sob story soon.

The TV stations enjoy the early if it bleeds it leads but never follow up on court cases or report on the progress.

And how long does it take to put these fricks to death?

Antoinette Frank is still on death row and appeals since 1995. Over twenty years.

The murderers of the Pence's have still not gone to trial.

Every politician who has become complacent about this is now culpable.
Posted by Dale Doubak
Somewhere
Member since Jan 2012
6000 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:52 pm to
Few questions: where are the murderers now? Is there any motive? What idiot is defending these thugs? And I think MJ2 is not a racist but facts are facts
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7635 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:49 pm to
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Bahahah .001 percent of arrests actually have a civil forfeiture attached and if they have nothing, like the previous poster said, what are they seizing exactly?



They seize the perp's Louisiana Purchase card and rent-to-own TV.
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:52 pm to
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journalists job to find out who/what/when/where/why/how. If the article doesn't answer these questions then the journalist did a shitty job.


I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you don't have a clue about how reporting actually works.
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