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re: update - Kenner Raising Cane's robbed, 21-YO manager stabbed - has passed away
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:12 pm to meauxjeaux2
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:12 pm to meauxjeaux2
Wonder if he voluntarily quit working at Canes or was terminated and if she was involved with the termination?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:14 pm to Ed Osteen
quote:A sweet hard working young white girl was brutally murdered most likely because she was white in the wrong place at the wrong time and all you can come up with is this?
MJ2 is a piece of shite racist
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:14 pm to Smalls
No. It's actually pretty damn close to the truth.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:15 pm to Smalls
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This is so misguided it's scary.
Except it's true. An attorney's sole duty is to his or her client. Prosecutors want convictions; they don't care about actual guilt. Therefore they force defense attorneys to take the same unyielding stance.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:17 pm to TigersforEver
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Except it's true. An attorney's sole duty is to his or her client. Prosecutors want convictions; they don't care about actual guilt. Therefore they force defense attorneys to take the same unyielding stance.
I thought the original intent of the entire system was to bring about justice? By both sides.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:20 pm to Festus
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thought the original intent of the entire system was to bring about justice? By both sides.
The intent? Of course.
But the reality is that DA's run for office based on their conviction rates and being "tough on crime". Voters don't seem to care that some of those convicts might not have been guilty
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:36 pm to tickfawtiger
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Believe me, our judicial system is screwed BEYOND redemption
Oh, I know all too well. I'm not in the judicial system, per se, but I'm around cops, lawyers and judges on a regular basis. They're all part of the same group. It's a steady revenue stream for all them. Incarcerated criminals don't benefit them. It's a revolving door. Federal and state funding, court costs, fines, attorney fees, etc.
I hate to take this discussion to another place, but doing away with the draconian drug laws would be a big step. That would free up jail space and court resources to go after the real criminals... but then there goes their surest source of revenue.
It's all about the money.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:44 pm to Napoleon
I don't typically prefer the death penalty, but if it's absolutely positive you have the right people (video and everything) and it's this absurd then I think it's very justified.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:45 pm to OldHickory
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I hate to take this discussion to another place, but doing away with the draconian drug laws would be a big step. That would free up jail space and court resources to go after the real criminals... but then there goes their surest source of revenue.
It's all about the money.
I never understand where the money comes from though. So they arrest a bunch a people that just spent their last nickel on some drugs, it just seems like there is no money to get.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:49 pm to beauchristopher
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I don't typically prefer the death penalty, but if it's absolutely positive you have the right people (video and everything) and it's this absurd then I think it's very justified.
i've always agreed with this ... don't use it unless there's some type of overwhelming evidence, but fast-track the appeals process ...
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:51 pm to TigersforEver
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The intent? Of course.
Gotcha. You agree then, the current system of attorneys trying to win, no matter the truth, is in no way what was intended to represent our justice system?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 7:54 pm to Kingpenm3
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never understand where the money comes from though. So they arrest a bunch a people that just spent their last nickel on some drugs, it just seems like there is no money to get.
Do me a favor. Google civil asset forfeiture.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:04 pm to Festus
It is about justice, but also the right to a fair trial. A competent attorney is part of that trial.
If an attorney turned on a client during trial and flipped to the prosecutor's side, that would not be a "fair" trial.
The system sucks, but it's better than other systems.
Look at Norway. Kill 75 people and get 23 years in prison, and then win a six figure settlement against the government for keeping you isolated for too long.
Or look at other nations where sentence is carried out after trial. Who cares if they are innocent or not.
If an attorney turned on a client during trial and flipped to the prosecutor's side, that would not be a "fair" trial.
The system sucks, but it's better than other systems.
Look at Norway. Kill 75 people and get 23 years in prison, and then win a six figure settlement against the government for keeping you isolated for too long.
Or look at other nations where sentence is carried out after trial. Who cares if they are innocent or not.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:06 pm to Kingpenm3
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So they arrest a bunch a people that just spent their last nickel on some drugs, it just seems like there is no money to get.
family pays to get them out of jail, state pays local parish if they keep them in. There is money made on both sides.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:12 pm to Napoleon
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If an attorney turned on a client during trial and flipped to the prosecutor's side, that would not be a "fair" trial.
Absolutely. No way should an attorney turn on a client during a trial. That's not what I'm saying by any means.
Both sides can seek out justice, and a fair trial can still be had. (I believe).
My question to you is this. If you are an attorney, and you know for a fact your client is guilty. Let's say he admits to you that he is guilty. Should you lie to the court and jurors, and say that he is not?
In the same way, if you are a prosecutor, and you know that someone else committed the crime and the person accused is innocent, do you still argue to convict him?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:15 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Do me a favor. Google civil asset forfeiture.
Bahahah .001 percent of arrests actually have a civil forfeiture attached and if they have nothing, like the previous poster said, what are they seizing exactly?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 8:27 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Do me a favor. Google civil asset forfeiture.
I appreciate the fact that abuse of civil asset forfeiture laws occur in the U.S., but I don't think this is the problem in the New Orleans area.
The Governor and the legislature taking time to do their bullshite eliminate the box, and lower the age to be tried as an adult legislation is a problem.
The mayor of New Orleans spending money on nonsense programs like his cable tv program, the gang outreach and other NOLA 4 Life grants when the cops are bled for money.
The Jefferson Parish Sheriff taking time out to defend sanctuary cities.
The media may be the worst of the bunch.
Nola and the times picayune is horse shite.
At least the Advocate did some decent reporting today, but it will be matched by some sob story soon.
The TV stations enjoy the early if it bleeds it leads but never follow up on court cases or report on the progress.
And how long does it take to put these fricks to death?
Antoinette Frank is still on death row and appeals since 1995. Over twenty years.
The murderers of the Pence's have still not gone to trial.
Every politician who has become complacent about this is now culpable.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:52 pm to OleWar
Few questions: where are the murderers now? Is there any motive? What idiot is defending these thugs? And I think MJ2 is not a racist but facts are facts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:49 pm to AintBigButItsPretty
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Bahahah .001 percent of arrests actually have a civil forfeiture attached and if they have nothing, like the previous poster said, what are they seizing exactly?
They seize the perp's Louisiana Purchase card and rent-to-own TV.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 10:52 pm to colorchangintiger
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journalists job to find out who/what/when/where/why/how. If the article doesn't answer these questions then the journalist did a shitty job.
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say you don't have a clue about how reporting actually works.
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