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re: United's dragged passenger hires high-powered Chicago personal injury lawyer
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:12 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:12 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Assuming UA was wrong, are you stating that the passenger would have still gotten belligerent and bloody if UA did NOT tell him he had to get off the plane?
The only reason it got physical was because he made it so. I'm sorry you refuse to admit that.
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:12 am to Tiger in NY
quote:
The overbooking policy clearly outlines a process for choosing someone to remove if no one volunteers
And when United claims it's not an overbooking situation?
quote:
United spokesman Jonathan Guerin said Tuesday that all 70 seats on United Express Flight 3411 were filled, but the plane was not overbooked as the airline previously reported. Instead, United and regional affiliate Republic Airlines, which operated the flight, selected four passengers to be removed to accommodate crew members needed in Louisville the next day.
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This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 9:14 am
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:13 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:
On what basis were police there? What crime was committed?
Patriot Act bro
Normal laws don't apply in an airport
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:13 am to Tiger in NY
quote:So that's irrelevant.
Meh, the contract gives them the right to remove anyone that could be considered a danger. Initially, not the case
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:14 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:
United chose the 4 passengers that were being bumped based on who had the lowest priority boarding, based on lowest class tickets and latest check-in times. He was chosen because he had one of the cheap tickets and was among the last ones to check-in for the flight.
I understand that, and that is absurd. Just because I bought my ticket at the right time and my connecting flight was shorter layover doesn't mean I deserve to get screwed. If you have 60 people on a flight, you should literally wager the vouchers until you have a true volunteer.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:15 am to RandySavage
quote:Arguably exercising your rights per a contract = Moron
He will and some other moron
Nice!!
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:15 am to Tiger in NY
quote:
Patriot Act bro
Normal laws don't apply in an airport
So the police can just arrest anyone for no reason? I don't know if that's in the constitution.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:16 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:
On what basis were police there? What crime was committed?
It wasn't police...it was airport security. When you're on a plane, its against the law to interfere with flight crew. The doc was refusing to comply with United employees requesting him to get up, so the plane couldn't leave the gate which means he was interfering with the flight crew and therefore breaking the law. Regardless, he was on private property and being asked to leave by security. He made it clear he wasn't voluntarily leaving, so he left security with no choice but to physically remove him.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:17 am to Tiger in NY
quote:Not saying this isn't so, but do we know that he began screaming?
and he starts yelling
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:17 am to Tiger in NY
quote:
This was my impression too. I don't think this incident started where the video begins. Dude seemed like a maniac. Can't let that person fly.
Saw today another piece of video. Apparently a passenger behind him. He is saying "No I will not get up. I will not leave." Again I do not know if this was after leaving the plane once and then changing his mind.
Wonder if United has paid hush money and handed out no disclosure agreements? Hundred people on that plane. I would think a hundred people would have a story to tell.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:17 am to Lou Pai
quote:Follow policy/law would be a good start. Maybe they did, but it's plausible that they did not.
What were they supposed to do?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:18 am to shel311
quote:
If he agrees to get off the plane, wouldn't he lose any remedies?
I don't think he would lose his rights because of that, but I don't know for sure.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:18 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:
wasn't police...it was airport security. When you're on a plane, its against the law to interfere with flight crew. The doc was refusing to comply with United employees requesting him to get up, so the plane couldn't leave the gate which means he was interfering with the flight crew and therefore breaking the law. Regardless, he was on private property and being asked to leave by security. He made it clear he wasn't voluntarily leaving, so he left security with no choice but to physically remove him.
Theres a lot wrong here...
Let's start with this. Have you ever leased an apt?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:18 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:You can't say it's ok to remove him for being unruly when the only reason he's being unruly is because they're trying to remove him.
This is the best angle I could find. Can't hear what they're saying, but pretty clear he's being asked to get up by security then resisting when security trying to grab him
He was not removed from the plane for his behavior, hopefully we can all agree on that. UA has said as much.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:19 am to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
I THOUGHT I had HEARD that the doctor at first agreed and got up or got off the plane, then ran back into the plane running pass the gate attendant. I thought that was the piece of video of him running around saying "I have to go"? At that point he looked crazy, and while a stretch, could be seen as a threat. At that point he finds a seat and digs in his heels.
Not even close to the story. He was sitting in his seat peacefully from all accounts and security came up to physically remove him, he got verbally and physically upset when they put their hands on him to pull him from the seat. He then fell over and hit his face on the arm rail on the seat across the aisle, at which time he was knocked out and got the bloodied face. He was then removed by security by dragging him.
Once off the plane, he escaped security and ran back on the plane bloodied. He got blood all over, then they had to remove everyone from the plane to sanitize the blood. He was truly an idiot for running back on the plane.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:19 am to Sneaky__Sally
quote:We do know, UA said the flight was full, not overbooked.
It depends on if the flight was "oversold" or "fully booked" actually. So we don't really know
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:20 am to Tiger in NY
quote:Right, and that is not relevant to this incident, so what other provision gave them the right to remove him?
The overbooking policy clearly outlines a process for choosing someone to remove if no one volunteers
Maybe there is one, I just don't know what it is or haven't seen it.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:22 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:If you lease an apartment, can the owner come to your house one day, and tell you that you have to get out of the apartment immediately and either can't ever return or can't return for a certain period of time?
and therefore breaking the law. Regardless, he was on private property and being asked to leave by security
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:23 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:
Let's start with this. Have you ever leased an apt?
I don't know what kind of reach you're pulling here, but yes I've leased an apartment. But signing a 12 month apartment lease is apples and oranges to buying an airline ticket.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 9:24 am to stendulkar
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