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United Healthcare Buying People's Health
Posted on 6/7/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/7/18 at 1:48 pm
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I imagine there are a lot of OT'ers who may have one of People's Medicare Advantage Plans. They also had sponsorship deals with LSU and the Saints.
I could also see some job losses in the long run. Another NOLA company swallowed up.
I imagine there are a lot of OT'ers who may have one of People's Medicare Advantage Plans. They also had sponsorship deals with LSU and the Saints.
I could also see some job losses in the long run. Another NOLA company swallowed up.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 1:49 pm to LSUFanHouston
I was wondering when this would go public
Posted on 6/7/18 at 1:52 pm to lsupride87
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I was wondering when this would go public
Apparently today. Been rumored for close to a year, and I heard last week was pretty much a done deal (pending regulatory review). I guess today they finally felt like they could say something.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 1:52 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I imagine there are a lot of OT'ers who may have one of People's Medicare Advantage Plans
So you think a lot of OT'ers are old enough for Medicare ?
I doubt it Baw
Posted on 6/7/18 at 1:58 pm to The Torch
Wrong. There are a lot of us old people here.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:48 pm to fishfighter
I've been wanting this topic to come up for a while. If there are indeed a lot of older people on here than you need to know RIGHT NOW that you SHOULD NOT EVER go with People's or Humana. They will surely "manage" your Medicare all right, they will manage it by giving you approximately 25% of what you are entitled too! Go Straight Medicare (old fashioned Red, white and Blue) all the way...Never fall for the "let us manage that Medicare policy for you" or "Do yourself a favor and 'reward' yourself with Humana''. It always shocks me when I have little old people tell me, "I've got Humana GOLD". Awful! If you want to take out a little supplemental from BCBS or Mutual of Omaha, then go for it, they aren't that expensive. Ask any MD out there, they will tell you Humana and Peoples are the worst! Lots of doctors don't even deal with them because they are so money oriented, and not patient oriented.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:57 pm to financetiger
Baton Rouge Clinic doesn’t take People’s.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:07 pm to financetiger
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they will manage it by giving you approximately 25% of what you are entitled too!
What do you give up by joining a Medicare advantage plan?
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:10 pm to financetiger
quote:Im pretty sure you don’t know what you are talking about
I've been wanting this topic to come up for a while. If there are indeed a lot of older people on here than you need to know RIGHT NOW that you SHOULD NOT EVER go with People's or Humana. They will surely "manage" your Medicare all right, they will manage it by giving you approximately 25% of what you are entitled too! Go Straight Medicare (old fashioned Red, white and Blue) all the way...Never fall for the "let us manage that Medicare policy for you" or "Do yourself a favor and 'reward' yourself with Humana''. It always shocks me when I have little old people tell me, "I've got Humana GOLD". Awful! If you want to take out a little supplemental from BCBS or Mutual of Omaha, then go for it, they aren't that expensive. Ask any MD out there, they will tell you Humana and Peoples are the worst! Lots of doctors don't even deal with them because they are so money oriented, and not patient oriented.
When you get a manged plan, you don’t give up your basic Medicare. Your managed plan will be additional to traditional Medicare
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:14 pm to financetiger
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Financetiger
Spot on.
I regret that I have but only one upvote to give.
And if it earns the AARP endorsement, it must be good right? Riiiiiiight.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:20 pm to G Vice
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Spot on.
I regret that I have but only one upvote to give.
And if it earns the AARP endorsement, it must be good right? Riiiiiiight.
What’s spot on? What is the 75% more you get with Medicare that you don’t get with Medicare advantage plans?
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:28 pm to LSUfan4444
United and Humana are known to be low reimbursement payors and are very resistant to approve services beyond acute care.
You need to be transferred to a skilled nursing facility or inpatient rehab?........good luck to you.
You need to be transferred to a skilled nursing facility or inpatient rehab?........good luck to you.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:33 pm to G Vice
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United and Humana are known to be low reimbursement payors and are very resistant to approve services beyond acute care. You need to be transferred to a skilled nursing facility or inpatient rehab?........good luck to you.
You have requested/denied/approved auth data for IP rehab, LTAC, and SNF for these companies? Or just anecdotal evidence? Because the actual data tells a different story.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:34 pm to LSUfan4444
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When you get a manged plan, you don’t give up your basic Medicare. Your managed plan will be additional to traditional Medicare
Respectfully, YOU Are Mistaken Sir! You DO Give Up Your Medicare For These Plans! You Are Thinking Of A Supplemental Plan That Is Purchased In ADDITION To Your Medicare Benefit. That Would Be The Add On. Humana, Peoples, Wellcare, Coventry, Etc. TAKE YOUR MEDICARE And Give You Their Shitty Insurance Instead. You Then Become Much More Restricted In The Benefits You Will Receive. Less Home Health, Less Days In Rehab Hospitals, Less Choices For Physicians, Less Choices For Tests And Imaging Studies That Will Be Performed (They Tell Your Doctor No!). When you have good "ole-fashioned" Medicare, you don't have all of those restrictions. People have been brain-washed into believing they must get a "managed plan". Trust me, I Work With Medicare And Managed Care Plans And Understand What I Am Talking About. Also, just Ask Any Physician Who Works With Any Of These Managed Plans And You Will Get A Better Understanding Of What's REALLY Going On.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:37 pm to lsupride87
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When you get a manged plan, you don’t give up your basic Medicare. Your managed plan will be additional to traditional Medicare
Yeah, I’d like someone to post the benefits you get with traditional Medicare vs a $0 Medicare advantage plan from UHC, people’s, Humana, BCBS, etc. Not to mention the Ochsner plan sold by Humana. Spoiler alert: all of these have been valued by an independent actuarial firm as significantly more valuable than traditional Medicare.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:37 pm to LSUfan4444
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What is the 75% more you get with Medicare that you don’t get with Medicare advantage plans?
This comes in the form of proper and "correct" care for your illness. Not the abbreviated, half-arse care you'll get with Humana and Peoples. There's a reason why Wal-Mart is looking to purchase Humana. Humana is already the WM of insurance NOW!!
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:39 pm to financetiger
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When you have good "ole-fashioned" Medicare, you don't have all of those restrictions.
Except for the ever growing number of facilities and practices that don’t accept traditional Medicare.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:40 pm to G Vice
Humana and United don’t set the reimbursement fee schedule, medicare does. If they are in a contractual agreement with a provider or group that that both parties agree to be less than 100% of the Medicare reimbursement rate and the provider or group is unhappy with it, that’s kind of them for signing the contract. They should either ask for a higher % or term the contract.
In regards to approval for skilled nursing or acute care, sure they have more prior authorization requirements than Medicare but paying for uneccsary services is a big part of the reason Medicare is broke and pays Medicare advantage companies to coordinate care. Provided the ordering physician can adequately explain and provide documentation why the care is appropriate, they shouldn’t have a problem getting the appropriate services authorized.
In regards to approval for skilled nursing or acute care, sure they have more prior authorization requirements than Medicare but paying for uneccsary services is a big part of the reason Medicare is broke and pays Medicare advantage companies to coordinate care. Provided the ordering physician can adequately explain and provide documentation why the care is appropriate, they shouldn’t have a problem getting the appropriate services authorized.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:40 pm to tigercross
Good luck ever getting approved for inpatient rehab when you have a stroke if your insurance is through Humana Gold. I think I’ve maybe had 1 patient approved in my 7 years as a Hospitalist.
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:41 pm to financetiger
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Not the abbreviated, half-arse care you'll get with Humana and Peoples.
Can you give examples or just talking points? Are these firms not required by their respective accrediting bodies to have a defined policy for appeals and grievances?
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