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re: United Airlines CEO addresses string of incidents, tells passengers carrier is safe

Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:01 am to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:01 am to
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I cannot recall the last person I know that died on a commercial flight. Because it’s ZERO


You know, it is possible to say that overall, air travel is very safe, and yet, there are some concerning cracks developing in the foundation.

Small issues today can become big issues in the future if the are not corrected now.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:05 am to
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This is looking like sloppy management of maintenance maybe combined with a blind DEI eye for incompetence.


Airlines are cutting corners on maintenance, and hiring unqualified DEI candidates to perform what little maintenance they are doing.

And even if the maintenance techs are not DEI, airlines (along with other industries) are forcing out older, more experienced techs and replacing them with younger, less experienced people who can't seem to concentrate or pay attention to small details.

It's DEI
It's greedy corporations
It's incompetent young people
It's the horrible training of young people
It's a paid off government that doesn't know how to properly regulate

It's all of the above. Yet, nothing will ever change because people want to pick and choose sides, instead of realizing the entire system is collapsing.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6007 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:06 am to
It’s mostly corporate greed, not DEI. Every US airline outsources some percentage of their maintenance to MRO facilities in other countries.

The airline execs aren’t doing that for the diversity they do it because it’s cheap.

Airline corporate folks love to spout about how safety is the number one priority, it isn’t. It’s profits.

90% of the airline front office employees have never worked in the operation and have little clue on what that type of work is.

Not only is it cheaper work, it’s taking jobs away from US workers.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 11:08 am
Posted by foosball
Member since Nov 2021
1892 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:32 am to
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This mass hysteria surrounding planes having to make emergency landings is absurd.


The difference is that I’m in control of my own destiny on the Highway. Reaction time, driving conservatively, etc

When something goes wrong at 30,000 feet. You’re just sitting there powerless, hoping it’s not catastrophic
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19549 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:41 am to
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You know, it is possible to say that overall, air travel is very safe, and yet, there are some concerning cracks developing in the foundation.

Small issues today can become big issues in the future if the are not corrected now.


My father was an aircraft safety director for the Army and an accident investigator. Where ever he was stationed, the accident rate dropped dramatically.

He saw a pattern at one of the maintenance hangers at Ft. Rucker. One night I went with him to the hanger and was told to make sure the mechanics there didn't leave. He went out to the flight line and surprised a couple of mechanics sleeping the helicopters. They were supposed to be doing maintenance checks. The next day they were fired.

The rash of problems we are seeing certainly look like a maintenance issue.

The rash of near collisions at airports too is unusually high. That could be due to understaffing and fatigue, a lower standard for controllers or both.

DEI isn't going to fix it.



Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6553 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:46 am to
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It’s mostly corporate greed, not DEI
I like the thought that corporations just now decided to be greedy and for-profit lol. Nice fairy tale.

Its declining human capital, and its only getting worse.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2369 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:58 am to
If you’re that scared of flying, you need to look at what other problems in your life might be causing your fear of flying. Millions of people fly in the U.S. every day with no problems at all.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:28 pm to
Isnt their CEO a cross dresser? Maybe he spends too much time on hair and makeup and not on safety









Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:40 pm to
Did he address their policy of overbooking every flight by 10%?
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12738 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:01 pm to
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The difference is that I’m in control of my own destiny on the Highway. Reaction time, driving conservatively, etc


You sure about that?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19549 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:09 pm to
Oops, this it the United Link to the DEI insanity. I just want the best of the best flying and taking care of an airline I fly. I don't care what color they are or what they have between their legs as long as they are the best. Seems that DEI is a common airline affliction.

https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/company/responsibility/diversity-and-inclusion.html
quote:

I’m saying OP is partially blaming diversity for United Airlines mechanical issues & linked American Airlines views on DEI

ETA: this is probably what OP was going for
United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby went viral this week after remarks he made in 2021 about the company’s diversity initiatives were resurfaced.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 4:10 pm
Posted by foosball
Member since Nov 2021
1892 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:14 pm to
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You sure about that?


More so than being a passenger in a steel tube at 30,000 feet, yes
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:40 pm to
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I like the thought that corporations just now decided to be greedy and for-profit lol. Nice fairy tale.


Corporations used to believe the best way to long term profitability was to do things the right way and take care of their employees and customers, because that will result in committed, repeated business.

Most corporations these days do not care about long term profitability, because the majority of their compensation comes from short term manipulation of the stock prive, via short term manipulation of earnings.

So yeah, it is different.

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Its declining human capital, and its only getting worse.


Caused by cuts in hiring, development, training, standards, etc. DEI just makes it worse.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
6707 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:42 pm to
I got an email the other day from their CEO saying everything's cool. Not to worry....that worried me more.




Dear XXXX,

Of all the things that make me proud of our team at United Airlines, I'm most proud of the culture we've built around the safety of our employees and our customers.

Safety is our highest priority and is at the center of everything we do.

Unfortunately, in the past few weeks, our airline has experienced a number of incidents that are reminders of the importance of safety. While they are all unrelated, I want you to know that these incidents have our attention and have sharpened our focus.

Our team is reviewing the details of each case to understand what happened and using those insights to inform our safety training and procedures across all employee groups. This is in addition to some changes that were already planned, including an extra day of in-person training for all pilots starting in May and a centralized training curriculum for our new-hire maintenance technicians. We're also dedicating more resources to supplier network management.

We empower our team to speak up and raise their hand if they see something wrong. You can be confident that every time a United plane pulls away from the gate, everyone on our team is working together to keep you safe on your trip.

In the past few years, we've done a lot at United to build a new culture, improve our business and earn your trust. I'm confident that we'll learn the right lessons from these recent incidents and continue to run an operation that puts safety first and makes our employees and customers proud.

Thank you for flying United, and I hope to see you onboard soon.

Sincerely,


Scott Kirby
CEO
United Airlines
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 4:44 pm
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6007 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:59 pm to
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Thank you for flying United, and I hope to see you onboard soon


Scott won’t see you onboard. He gets confirmed first class seats and boards last and gets off first so he and his boyfriend don’t have to be “bothered” by regular passengers who have been fricked by his airline.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6553 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:53 pm to
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Caused by cuts in hiring, development, training, standards, etc. DEI just makes it worse.
The decline in human capital is because the worst of humanity is outbreeding the best.

Based on fertility rates, in 2100 the list of the most populous cities in the world can be seen at this link: LINK

Look at that list. BLEAK AF.

Humanity is about to enter a free fall that is going to make Idiocracy look like a MENSA convention.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1487 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:57 pm to
So what airline is “safe” these days? I thought it was Boeing going bad, but this also references airbus.
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