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re: Unfair search and seizure of the military

Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:59 am to
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20773 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:59 am to
So she got pissed tested as a passenger? What is the problem? Adults can't be drunk and take a cab?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126854 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:11 am to
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Yeah I never heard of a piss test as you enter post:


They would do it every few months at Ramstein.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76131 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:14 am to
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
12169 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:15 am to
For those saying they've never heard of random urinalysis at the gate...it happens. My buddy and I were driving onto Luke AFB in Arizona years ago and got popped. It was a Saturday night and we were not on duty...just pulling on base as we were in billeting during a 2-week visit. Guard directed us to park in a lot just inside the gate. Some major gave us a paper to report to the pee test building & seized our ID cards. We got them back when we provided our samples. This also happens a lot at Nellis AFB and Tyndall AFB due to the higher-than-average drug culture in those locations.

As for "unfair", wrong. As a servicemember, you're subject to any search of your persons or vehicle on any installation. Every base/fort has a big freaking sign stating as much as you enter. You're also subject to random urinalysis at any time. Unless you're suspected of DUI or drunk on duty, they don't care if you're full of Bud Lite Lime. They're checking for illicit drug use. Piss as directed, get your GI Bill benefits, and move along.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17328 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:47 am to
The part that really chaps my panus is the fact that they lost their cab and had to walk home. It just really sucked for them and ruined their good time. Our servicemen sacrifice so much, they deploy, move all over, get disabled and killed in the line of duty. Why not piss test during business hours? Drugs don't leave your system over night.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14935 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:53 am to
Your friend is lucky he didn't get his arse chewed out for his wife making a scene. Nothing was funnier than seeing soldiers holding up signs on the side of the road at Ft Benning saying "my wife was speeding" after theif wives got tickets on base.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126854 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:00 am to
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The part that really chaps my panus is the fact that they lost their cab and had to walk home. It just really sucked for them and ruined their good time. Our servicemen sacrifice so much, they deploy, move all over, get disabled and killed in the line of duty


This can't be real

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Why not piss test during business hours?


You are on duty 24/7

quote:

Drugs don't leave your system over night.


They do it at night b/c some drugs are out of your system in a few days. So makes sense to grab people on a weekend night when they are drunk and are more likely to try drugs, than 5 days after the fact they did something that can be out their system in 2-3 days.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74865 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:01 am to
Military are under the 'Uniform Code of Military Conduct' basically gives MPs carte blanche to do as they please when investigating servicemen.

Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35652 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:12 am to



okay
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10376 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:49 am to
quote:

The part that really chaps my panus is the fact that they lost their cab and had to walk home. It just really sucked for them and ruined their good time. Our servicemen sacrifice so much, they deploy, move all over, get disabled and killed in the line of duty. Why not piss test during business hours? Drugs don't leave your system over night.


You obviously do not understand that military life and civilian life are completely different. You are not technically "off duty" so yeah they can drug test on the spot if they want too. Everyone who is a service member understands what they are sacrificing when they serve and they will be alright.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:51 am to
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Unfair
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military


Awwwwww
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70121 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:40 am to
I believe you and I'm not surprised; just I haven't seen it myself.

I can see why it may be implemented at some installations.

It would be awesome if they did this to ait and entry service members at ft. Sam.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70121 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:45 am to
My unit at ft. Stewart did something like this. They had to carry this gorilla or ape like statue everywhere they went for a full week.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17464 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:49 am to
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Unfair search and seizure of the military by rebeloke


As soon as you let us know who unfairly searched and seized our military, I'll make sure that's their arse!
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126854 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:53 am to
Lots of bases make you reset the no days with out a DUI counter back to zero if you got a DUI. While everyone is coming to work so you get shammed.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74550 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:55 am to
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Just a bunch of BS if you asked me.



Nobody asked you.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135363 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:57 am to
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Piss. They seized their piss for a drug test.
No shite??
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64009 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:58 am to
They don't have to let you onto the base. Too bad your friend and his ol' lady can't handle their liquor.
Posted by Sody Cracker
Distemper Ward
Member since May 2016
3409 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:05 am to
Tell your friends to gain a better grasp of their constitutional rights while in the military. You should do the same.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:10 am to
Wife was probably a loud mouth. They should have PIIHB.
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