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re: Unemployment for new college graduates surpasses the national average, AI to blame

Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5246 posts
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:30 pm to
Well, those blue collar trades sure are raking it in these days. Funny how things change. That ditch digger might earn more than an office worker.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:17 am to
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Well, those blue collar trades sure are raking it in these days.




No they aren’t
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39658 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:21 am to
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AI? More like outsourcing entry level work to India or Malaysia for peanuts. There is no value in training new graduates when they are going to leave by the time they become competent at their job.


This is the real answer.
Posted by Colonel Angus
Member since Aug 2007
2208 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:36 am to
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My industry is one where this is supposedly happening, but in reality, there’s been much less turnover rate than expected and executives are being cautious with hiring over economic uncertainty. AI has taken exactly 0 jobs as of today in my experience


Same here. We had 2 corp accountants resign but we realized that 3 others had bandwidth to take on more work. We shifted some responsibilities around in a test phase to see how it pans out before we hire anyone else. Zero to do with AI and this with a brand new ERP system that has some built in AI capabilities.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:40 am to
AI still needs educated prompters.
Posted by migui8618
Member since Nov 2023
780 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:43 am to
And they all used ChatGPT to graduate. Irony can sometimes be poetic.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3827 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:43 am to
AI is doing a lot of screening of resumes. There isn't a lot of job opportunities coming anyone's way unless your resume is written to be in compliance with AI hiring standards. As far as the job itself, I don't think we are there yet, but we certainly are in the hiring process.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5246 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:51 am to
So roofing, plumbing, air conditioning, etc. are cheap? Point me? Please. Those trades can hang with white collar if a quality business. Not talking Wall Street, but in general.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:57 am to
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So roofing, plumbing, air conditioning, etc. are cheap? Point me? Please. Those trades can hang with white collar if a quality business. Not talking Wall Street, but in general.


Those all make great money if you own the company. Otherwise, you're busting your arse in less than ideal conditions doing some form of manual labor and relying on working OT hours to hit 6 figures.

That's all well and good. Totally respectable. But damn near everyone working like that would trade it for an office job that pays 6 figures for 40 hours of work if they're being honest.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:58 am to
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We finance stuff in America. We don’t engineer. I love the cognitive dissonance from the engineering crowd.


What is it you think you're even saying here?
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
2091 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:14 am to
When colleges decide to accept anybody to increase their revenue, you should expect many of them to come out unemployable. Couple that with the ridiculously entitled attitude of the 20-35 generation, no wonder companies don’t want to hire these people. The world needs fricking ditch diggers too, and thanks to my Big Orange Bastard, the imported masses filling those jobs are on their way back to Tijuana. Dumbasses, here is your chance to get a paying job and be a productive member of society. Get off your pen and lose the attitude and get to work.

TLDR: Old man screams at cloud
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5246 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:14 am to
Ahhh, understood. True. Definitely be the owner. I was just thinking of cost.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:17 am to
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What is it you think you're even saying here?


Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62081 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:17 am to
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Serious question..what are people supposed to do for work? AI is and will continue reducing the headcount needs for every industry. I don't even know what I will tell my kids to study in the future.



If AI supplants a substantial amount of jobs in the future, the country might resort to some type of Universal Basic Income.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Member since Jul 2024
10008 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:42 am to
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If AI supplants a substantial amount of jobs in the future, the country might resort to some type of Universal Basic Income.


More than half end up paying zero Fed taxes. Combine that with EBT, Medicaid, and all other sorts of BS freebies, I’d say we were already there in my book.

Plenty of lazy assholes just don’t want to work and are OK living in shacks and trailer parks. These leeches need to work.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19578 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:44 am to
AI can't build, do maintenance, engineer physical solutions, conduct original research, do dentistry, weld, HVAC, rough out electrical or plumbing, build cabinets, set a door, troubleshoot any number of problems not connected to a computer system, etc. Hell, even what is called "AI" today isn't even true AI.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19578 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:47 am to
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But damn near everyone working like that would trade it for an office job that pays 6 figures for 40 hours of work if they're being honest.


And you'd be dead wrong. I would much rather work with my hands than sit at a desk all day. Luckily I have the ability to do both with my work but most people I know that sit at a desk without anything else are miserable.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:48 am to
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most people I know that sit at a desk without anything else are miserable.


Most people I know that work in the trades are poor, in bad health, divorced a couple of times, and addicted to alcohol and/or drugs
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62081 posts
Posted on 7/10/25 at 10:59 am to
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Plenty of lazy assholes just don’t want to work and are OK living in shacks and trailer parks. These leeches need to work.


But this is different from people who actually want to work but can no longer find jobs because technology has eliminated them.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/10/25 at 2:09 pm to
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And you'd be dead wrong. I would much rather work with my hands than sit at a desk all day. Luckily I have the ability to do both with my work but most people I know that sit at a desk without anything else are miserable.


I'd be dead wrong while you brag about your job that offers desk time
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