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“Under promise and over deliver” or “fake it til you make it?”

Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:42 pm
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:42 pm
I would say both have potential value depending on the circumstance, but they are both mantras that are thrown out commonly and are diametrically opposed. So which is better overall? Selling yourself as super great/talented/capable in the hopes that perception is reality or that you will grow into whatever endeavor? Or being overly humble and then being able to over deliver/pleasantly surprise?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:45 pm to
Like most strategies, it is situationally dependant.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40546 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:51 pm to
I am very much in the first category but everyone above me in my work department is in the second and it drives me crazy. We make outrageous promises and people get pissed when we inevitably fail. We need the business but we lose out on a lot of repeat customers. Also because I’m in the first category, my career path ceiling is very limited but I’d imagine that is in most fields. Probably why I have had trouble getting job offers, because I’m too honest.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 8:06 pm
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11508 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:53 pm to
When we had our business we would under promise on timelines and people caught on and expected stuff faster than we quoted... Well, we quoted a buffer in there for supply/shipping issues and then the regulars understood that we weren't necessarily deceiving them, just wanted to account for delays beyond our control.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30263 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Probably why I have had trouble getting job offers because I’m too honest.


I feel like this too. I gave myself an 7/10 average about a particular skill set and regretted it for 3 days. I didn’t get the job.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:55 pm to
I say the former. The problem with fake it till you make it is that smart people will sniff you out early on.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34682 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:23 pm to
In my interactions with females, I definitely take the "under promise/over deliver" route.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4653 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:26 pm to
Depends on your role.

When you're starship captain you fake it til you make it but when you're the chief of engineering you need to under promise and over deliver.
Posted by LPgolfer
Member since Jul 2015
855 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:49 pm to
Fail it till u nail it
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:09 pm to
Point taken, but that’s kind of subjective is it not? Being at a “high point” or “achieved point” is very dependent on the individual.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15765 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:11 pm to
Say what you mean,
Mean what you say.

It’s really that simple
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:29 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Gee Grenouille
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Member since Jul 2018
4788 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:26 pm to
Everybody knows I’m doing good to stay awake for a 12 hour shift. When times get bad I get called upon and I usually make it happen. So I guess I’m UPOD. That’s better than faking to me. Faking gets people killed.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
1967 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:53 pm to
bullshite will get your foot in the door but after that you better have something to offer.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113959 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:05 pm to
I wish you would have faked this thread before you made it.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11917 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:31 am to
I think we all “fake it til you make it” at one point or another. Most people when they start a job/career the first time aren’t 100% prepared and will hold it all together until they have it. As always though, someone will see through your shite so you should get it quick.

Under promise over deliver is great, but it’s hard to keep that going as pointed out in the thread, due to expectations.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30156 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 1:34 am to
Fake it til you're naked works, so says a friend of mine.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
7028 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 2:15 am to
I prefer to baffle them with bullshite before I have to dazzle them with brilliance.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18568 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 2:21 am to
It depends on the situation. But you’re really shite out of luck when you find yourself in a position when people depend on you being exceptional and you can’t produce. I’m way too honest for my own good but I have no doubt I’d bite off more than I could chew if I wasn’t
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30156 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 2:59 am to
You definitely practice the best policy with
quote:

way too honest

and although, yes, it would probably depend on the situation, as a general matter, best practice is likely to know the limits of your abilities on your best day, and set expectations right about there. And again, honesty/full disclosure is the best policy.
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