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re: ULM Student Accused of Rape
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:08 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:08 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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GeauxxxTigers23
Funny to see you in a thread about RAPE
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:09 pm to NoHoTiger
In all honesty, I think really all we need to know to determine guilt or innocence is whether or not this chick had a serious boyfriend outside of the dorm room movie guy.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:09 pm to 777Tiger
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not blaming but right now they're just allegations/charges aren't they? people make false charges, and people say stupid shite when they are scared and think they are about to get in trouble, I know the OT will have this resolved long before the legal system, however
Well they apparently have texts from him to her asking her not to go to the cops and that he was sorry so it's not really that much of a stretch to think this one is true.
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It states the arrest officer reviewed screen captures where the suspect discussed the reported rape, apologized and asked for the incident to not be reported.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:10 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Funny to see you in a thread about ALLEGED RAPE
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:11 pm to TH03
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A lot of people were giving the girl some of the responsibility in the rape.
She is not responsible for being raped. He is responsible, if that is, in fact, what happened.
I think some people, myself included, view all sexual misconduct allegations, including rape, through a skeptical lens - as they should.
Especially in light of what's going on in today's world. If someone grabs my arse, I don't view that as sexual assault, some do. If someone asks me out and I say no, that's not harassment. That's me declining a date. I'm not that easily offended and don't need to have my virginal ears protected from salty or sexual language at work. Some people are easily offended and do need others' protection.
All of this is why there should be skepticism. Why the question of why she didn't leave needs to be asked. Why did she wait to seek treatment or contact the police? There are valid answers to all those questions. But, they do need to be asked.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:13 pm to TH03
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Well they apparently have texts from him to her asking her not to go to the cops and that he was sorry so it's not really that much of a stretch to think this one is true.
I think Sabi was right in saying that those texts could be taken out of context. I'd like to see them to confirm what the officer said.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:14 pm to TH03
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Well they apparently have texts from him to her asking her not to go to the cops and that he was sorry so it's not really that much of a stretch to think this one is true.
I understand that, I reiterate what I said though, what gets interpreted/reported by the media and what the actual facts are are quite often pretty far apart
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:14 pm to upgrayedd
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upgrayedd
You bring the donuts, I'll get the milk.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:14 pm to upgrayedd
Sabi is always right. Have you seen his football betting algorithms?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:15 pm to 777Tiger
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actual facts are are quite often pretty far apart
a certain signed yearbook springs to mind for some reason
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:15 pm to ell_13
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The “she should have known better” argument is by far the weakest cop out here.
Well it's a good thing I'm not making that argument then.
The argument I'm making is that she should have been taught to see the warning signs.
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He was someone she knew for a while yet it’s her fault for getting raped by him.
Only in your all-or-nothing world.
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You’re saying that any time that happens someone else is partially responsible for not noticing or acting on those signs.
I know that's the argument you're wanting to have, but that's not what's happening here. I rarely deal in absolutes on issues like these.
Your stance is she has absolutely no culpability so let's explore that a bit...
She knew that we was wanting more than she was yet she stayed after stopping him from going farther not just once, not twice, not even thrice, but TWENTY times.
He didn't have the right to rape her, let's get that out of the way.
Once she knows he wants more and is being persistent about it, was it a smart or wise thing for her to continue to stay there and continue to engage him?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:15 pm to NoHoTiger
I'll need to film the whole thing for legal reasons.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:16 pm to NoHoTiger
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a certain signed yearbook springs to mind for some reason
that would seem to be the least of my worries if I were Moore's attorney
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:16 pm to upgrayedd
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So you just admitted that there is an opportunity for some to leave which would justify said question. If you were less emotionally invested in this, you'd be able to view it objectively.
Where does the question lead, though?
Just out of curiosity, if there were multiple chances for her to leave and she stayed, would it cease to be rape in anyone’s estimation? I surely hope no one has that view, but if they do, I’d ask if it would remain their view if it was their daughter, sister, or loved one...
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:16 pm to NoHoTiger
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in today's world. If someone grabs my arse, I don't view that as sexual assault
hey
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:18 pm to Bard
So now it’s her parents fault for her getting raped?
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:18 pm to NoHoTiger
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I think some people, myself included, view all sexual misconduct allegations, including rape, through a skeptical lens - as they should.
This one seems pretty cut and dry though, so y'all are applying skepticism to seemingly the wrong case.
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. If someone grabs my arse, I don't view that as sexual assault, some do
If it's unwanted, it probably is.
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If someone asks me out and I say no, that's not harassment. That's me declining a date
Never heard this before. If someone claimed this as harrasment they'd be a clown.
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Why the question of why she didn't leave needs to be asked.
It serves no purpose but to put responsibility on the victim. it's not some random guy she felt she needed to run from, it was a close friend that I'm sure she felt would stop, but didn't.
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Why did she wait to seek treatment or contact the police?
It said she told her parents and counselors within 1-3 weeks. I'm not going to really question the time table of someone who was raped by a close friend they've known forever. I could only imagine the conflicting thoughts that ran through her head.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:19 pm to Bard
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The argument I'm making is that she should have been taught to see the warning signs.
Lol what?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:20 pm to ell_13
quote:it's everyones fault except for the guy who actually did the raping
So now it’s her parents fault for her getting raped?
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