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re: Ukraine destroys Russia’s nuclear bombers

Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:29 am to
Posted by OleVaught14
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:29 am to
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They’re calling it a terrorist attack because


Because Russia doesn't want to recognize Ukraine as a state actor. Calling it an act of war means they view Ukraine as an independent state actor. Calling it a terrorist attack means they don't have to recognize Ukraine as an independent nation.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:29 am to
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:29 am to
John Barron and SirWinston on suicide watch.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:29 am to
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How are they “unsuspecting?”


The general that got blown up. The guy was hired to deliver the package and didn’t know what was in it and they blew him up as well.


The bridge attack and this most recent attack was a shipment deliveries where people were hired to move cargo and were blown up after doing so.
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:31 am to
Still not terrorism
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:32 am to
I wondered how the Aeroprakt company is still in operation and sending Light Sport Aircraft (LSA) to the United States. Me thinks they're being subsidized by the American MIC:

Aeroprakt A-22 UCAV

These are actually really cool airplanes:

This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 11:36 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:33 am to
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They’re calling it a terrorist attack because Ukraine keeps hiring unsuspecting civilians to deliver these attacks while they have no idea.


The Russians say they have detained one of the truck drivers.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:22 pm to
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This is a day after they blew up a bridge into a passenger train



They blew up a railroad? Like in every war since rail lines existed?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:27 pm to
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Incorrect


Whatever Ivan....
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:30 pm to
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By the way: You don't think it was the Trump administration intelligence agencies who tipped off Ukraine to all these bombers lined up in a row?

Do I think US assets tipped them off? Yes.

Do I think Trump ordered them to? No.

DoD/US IC/deep state is not captured by the Trump administration or Lyndsay Graham wouldn’t be sitting in Kyiv telling Zelensky not to worry about Trump during a peace negotiation.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Incorrect. 3-4 bombers were damaged. I bet you also believed the Ghost of Kiev story
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Donald Trump, John Barron and SirWinston on suicide watch.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:41 pm to
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The general that got blown up. The guy was hired to deliver the package and didn’t know what was in it and they blew him up as well.


The bridge attack and this most recent attack was a shipment deliveries where people were hired to move cargo and were blown up after doing so.

How do you 'unsuspectingly' launch 472 drone missiles and 7 cruise missiles?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:44 pm to
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So a couple of old prop bombers destroyed = obliterating Russian strategic aviation?


The TU-95 is indeed a “prop bomber”. It’s also the backbone on the Russian strategic bomber force. I don’t know precisely how many of them the Ukrainians took out, but if it’s even close to 40, that is indeed a massive blow to Russia’s nuclear triad. Hell, even if it’s half that number, that’s still a big loss for Russia. X
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:54 pm to
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Ukraine is obviously trying to provoke a major attack to garner more sympathy. Just last week Kyiv got bomber the worse in the war because they sent 600 drones to Moscow that did minimal damage.

What kind of response do you think destroying nuclear bombers and blowing up a passenger train will get?


I don’t think these strikes are solely to gain sympathy from the West. Peace talks are coming, and coming soon. Ukraine is looking to go into those peace talks with the strongest hand they can. It’s apparent they cannot look to battlefield success where they’ve taken land from the Russians. In fact, due to manpower shortages on the part of Ukraine, it’s looking more and more like Ukraine needs this war to end as soon as possible before their front collapses. So, what is left for them to do to have some sort of bargaining chips at the negotiating table? Well, the ability to hurt Russia in its own territory. That’s really it. So, I think what we’re seeing with the strike on the bomber bases and the train attack, is Ukraine looking for some sort of leverage at the peace talks that will start at some point in the coming weeks.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:56 pm to
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According to the Guardian, it was 40+.


The Guardian is a propaganda rag. I would put no stock in this number...
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:58 pm to
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3-4 Bombers out of Hundreds.

If Russia had attacked Ukrainian air craft with this success you would have started 6 threads on two different TD boards praising the attack.

Oh, I forgot, you're neutral in this war....
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:00 pm to
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The Guardian is a propaganda rag. I would put no stock in this number...


The NAFO trolls love U.K. propaganda, the Ghost of Kiev and Snake Island are totally real Bro
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