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re: UK Greek Pledge Kills 4 year-old in DUI Crash After Murray State Game. BAC: .051
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:29 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:29 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Was the infant buckled in properly? Or is he being blamed simply because he got in a fatal wreck.
It didn't mention this in the article, but the boy was walking to the game with his father on the sidewalk. The freshman was the one driving and "lost control" rolling over the curb and into the sidewalk.
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:30 pm to DustyDinkleman
I may be wrong but I think in ky it's zero tolerance if you are under 21.
According to the news he said he only had 2 beers and hit the child standing on the sidewalk with his parents.
According to the news he said he only had 2 beers and hit the child standing on the sidewalk with his parents.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:30 pm to jbgleason
The legal BAL is set based on the lowest threshold by which a driver could be considered too impaired to operate.
How can the law then charge a person with an impairment charge when they are just a hair over half the agreed upon lowest threshold for impairment?
How can the law then charge a person with an impairment charge when they are just a hair over half the agreed upon lowest threshold for impairment?
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:31 pm to L1C4
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I may be wrong but I think in ky it's zero tolerance if you are under 21.
You're right. That's why he was arrested.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:34 pm to Scoop
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How can the law then charge a person with an impairment charge when they are just a hair over half the agreed upon lowest threshold for impairment?
I guess, and I have zero basis for this, that they are saying an "adult" experienced with driving and alcohol use (not necessarily together) is capable of operating a vehicle at .079 but not at .080 but that a minor with no experience in those things shouldn't be operating a vehicle at 0.050 or higher?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:37 pm to L1C4
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According to the news he said he only had 2 beers and hit the child standing on the sidewalk with his parents.
This is a tough one. I'm not sure where I fall on it. I can imagine so many scenarios like this, say, at a Razorback game. People everywhere, going everywhere. He may have been avoiding someone 50 feet away for all I know. Terrible story.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:39 pm to DustyDinkleman
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It didn't mention this in the article, but the boy was walking to the game with his father on the sidewalk. The freshman was the one driving and "lost control" rolling over the curb and into the sidewalk.
If thats the case (that he was driving recklessly) I have no problem with him being arrested/charged. My doubts stem more from him being arrested/charged as an adult while using BAC standards used on minors.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:41 pm to NYNolaguy1
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My doubts stem more from him being arrested/charged as an adult while using BAC standards used on minors.
That BAC standard isn't just for minors but also underage adults
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:43 pm to cypressbrake3
quote:an underaged kid had alcohol in his system and was the cause of an accident that killed a 4 year old. you tell me
Will this kid do time?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:43 pm to NYNolaguy1
A buddy of mine got a DWI for blowing .06. He was 2 months from turning 21.
It’s a shitty law.
It’s a shitty law.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:44 pm to DustyDinkleman
This seems more appropriate negligent homicide than the Gruver BS.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:49 pm to Stexas
According to the article, (and a 2nd article), he was only charged with DUI.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:50 pm to jchamil
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That BAC standard isn't just for minors but also underage adults
I know, but it creates two legal systems for "equal" adults.
Fairness under the law shouldnt apply to some but not others.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:51 pm to DustyDinkleman
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Police say Heil did not take a breath test at the scene of the crash.
So .051 was after the time it took to arrest him after his refusal to take the breath test, get him to jail, get a warrant for involuntary blood draw, and to actually draw his blood. Any .051 defenders want to extrapolate how high it was given the time it took to take the sample?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 4:58 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
The metabolic rate for alcohol is .015 per hour.so without knowing the approximate time it took to do all of that. Hard to say.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:01 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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Any .051 defenders want to extrapolate how high it was given the time it took to take the sample?
Just as likely to increase as decrease
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:01 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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So .051 was after the time it took to arrest him after his refusal to take the breath test, get him to jail, get a warrant for involuntary blood draw, and to actually draw his blood. Any .051 defenders want to extrapolate how high it was given the time it took to take the sample?
Have you ever driven after having 2-3 cold beers?
I have.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:01 pm to Sao
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Have you ever driven after having 20-30 cold beers?
I have.
....shamefully.... Yes.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:03 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
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Sucks it happened but he wasn’t drunk by any means
Alcohol affects everyone differently. Two beers may be like water for you, but it could be five shots of liquor to someone else.
Alcohol was present in the system of an underage individual that caused a fatal crash.
He's done.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:03 pm to Sao
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Have you ever driven after having 2-3 cold beers?
I have.
I'll have 2-3 at a restaurant and drive home but no more than that. Sadly that wasn't always my policy. I'm glad that I never hurt anyone when I was young and stupid.
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