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re: UK Greek Pledge Kills 4 year-old in DUI Crash After Murray State Game. BAC: .051
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Mainly because I believe if he can be tried in an adult court, he should be judged by adult (21+) laws. Also because I am a firm believer that there should be one class of adults, not two.
Obviously this is just my opinion.
Yep.
And in this case, an element of the crime is being a minor. It doesn't make sense for the government to have him be both a minor and an adult depending on what suits them.
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:59 pm to xxGEAUXxx
So for this adult. Regardless if 21 or not. You can and should be charged at any BAC if you show impairment.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:02 pm to kywildcatfanone
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hope he is executed.found guilty and executed. I have no tolerance for drinking and driving.
You're emotional and melodramatic. Are you a woman?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:03 pm to Bestbank Tiger
For the Kentucky statute. You are considered a minor to have possession or consume alcohol. If you are under 18 you go to juvenile court and 18 will attend adult court.
For example, you are a sophomore in college, likely 19-20. You get caught drinking, you receive an MIP (Minor in possession). The name of the charge varies by each state.
For example, you are a sophomore in college, likely 19-20. You get caught drinking, you receive an MIP (Minor in possession). The name of the charge varies by each state.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:04 pm to DustyDinkleman
Look at all these people defending someone who killed a 4 year old while under the influence 
Stay classy, OT
Down vote away
Stay classy, OT
Down vote away
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:08 pm to dbeck
Driving after drinking alcohol is okay to a lot of people. It takes something bad to happen, before they change their tune.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:08 pm to dbeck
Back in the 80s we could drink at the Frat House and i would not drive from Friday until Sunday
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:13 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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Driving after drinking alcohol is okay to a lot of people.
I'll never understand it.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:14 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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And in this case, an element of the crime is being a minor. It doesn't make sense for the government to have him be both a minor and an adult depending on what suits them.
Being under 21 is an element of the crime, not being a minor. The Govt isn't treating him as a minor, they're treating him as an adult who is under the legal drinking age
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:19 pm to dbeck
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Look at all these people defending someone who killed a 4 year old while under the influence
They do it so they can continue to rationalize that their own actions while consuming alcohol are not a problem,
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:21 pm to yellowfin
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.05 isn’t drunk
Several of you misunderstand something.
0.08 is the level at which an adult is assumed to be drunk. If you blow above that, the officer's judgement doesn't come into play during trial so it's often a slam dunk case.
But (depending on the jurisdiction) if the officer thinks you're under the influence you can get charged even if you blow less than that.
Cops often don't arrest someone who blows under 0.08 because it's more of a judgement call and not as easy to prove in court. But they can and will if they think you aren't able to drive safely.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:23 pm to DayBowBow
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He deserves jail time because he wrecklessly killed a 4 year old while driving but there are hundreds of thousands of people making the same decision he did every Saturday during football season.
From what I’ve read and heard, he was pretty clearly impaired when they picked him up. It’s possible he wasn’t just impaired by alcohol. Especially since he’s rolling with the “only had two beers at 9:30 am” story. Of course it’s also possible he was texting and driving too.
Either way, I feel like you have to go out of your way to drive with any kind of significant BAC these days with Uber, Lyft, etc. And if he wasn’t impaired, pay attention when you’re driving in an area that’s busy as frick.
Unfortunately for him and his family, that one moment killed a child and ruined his own life. It’s just not worth it.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:23 pm to DustyDinkleman
You drink and drive, you lose.
.... little kid looses too.
.... little kid looses too.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:25 pm to C
.05 isn’t going to determine the safety of my child. .08 is the legal limit for a reason.
0.04 - 0.06 BAC Feeling of well-being, lower inhibitions, and relaxation. Judgment is slightly impaired. Minor impairment of reasoning and memory, and less cautious. Your behavior can become exaggerated and emotions (ex. happiness or sadness) felt more intensely.
0.04 - 0.06 BAC Feeling of well-being, lower inhibitions, and relaxation. Judgment is slightly impaired. Minor impairment of reasoning and memory, and less cautious. Your behavior can become exaggerated and emotions (ex. happiness or sadness) felt more intensely.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:25 pm to yellowfin
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Horrible situation but .05 isn’t drunk
He was .05 after everything and going to hospital. He refused at the scene. So during the actual wreck, he was higher than .05.
If it took an hour to get blood at hospital, he was over .08 at the wreck time.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:26 pm to EA6B
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there are two people available, one driver has not had a drink, the other has a blood alcohol level of .05 just like this kid, which one gets to drive your kid? Be honest, you know the answer.
Nice question, but to be honest there are some people who are worse driving stone cold sober than others at .05
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:27 pm to jchamil
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The Govt isn't treating him as a minor, they're treating him as an adult who is under the legal drinking age
So some adults have laws that apply to them, while others don't, yet are equal?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:29 pm to DayBowBow
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he wrecklessly killed
Reckless - without regard for the safety of others
Wreckless - without a wreck
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:37 pm to NYNolaguy1
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So some adults have laws that apply to them, while others don't, yet are equal?
Are you saying not equal because an 18 year old can’t drink?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:40 pm to xxGEAUXxx
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Are you saying not equal because an 18 year old can’t drink?
Not drinking per se, more of the criminal liability associated with legal driving after drinking.
21 year old adults dont have to worry abt getting a DWI with a BAC of .051.
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