re: UFC fighter Bryce Mitchell praises hitler on podcast. “He wanted to purify his country”

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But that was a unironic talking point and a hallmark of the PT during the first trump admin. That having "socialist" in the Nazi party name was proof positive that it was a far left party.

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For sure. The term “Nazi” has been a political weapon for a long time. Just look at the media and Democrats since roughly 2016. If I had a penny for every time some reporter or Democrat has referred to anyone who isn’t a Democrat as “Nazi”, I’d have Elon Musk level wealth. They even brought back the Communist “Antifa” movement from early 1930s Germany to combat what they claim is modern-day “Nazisim”




They do this by pointing out the aspects of Nazism that align with traditionally conservative ideology while ignoring those aspects of Nazi ideology that align with traditional leftist ideology. Conservatives do the same thing, albeit to a much lesser degree.

But the truth of it is both sides are wrong to try to paint the other as “Nazi”. Neither side is really Nazi because to be a true Nazi, by that I mean a Nazi of 1930s-40s Germany, would require adopting viewpoints that no modern day progressive or conservative would ever dream of supporting. Like I said earlier, before the Nazis were founded in the early 1920, nothing like them had ever existed in the political arena. And since they weee destroyed in 1945, nothing else has risen that comes close to what they were.

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Jesse Owens did say Hitler treated him better than FDR.

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That’s exactly how dangerous Hitler was. He was that evil to show his good qualities to even those he despises in order to gain favor.

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I remember for a few brief months one of the favorite talking points was that the Nazi party were actually leftists purely because the party had "socialist" in the name.

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Well they sure as hell operated that way

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Pol Pot is the answer.

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hell, Stalin was far worse than Hitler.

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hell, Stalin was far worse than Hitler.

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It just depends on your definition of worse.

By % Of controlled population - Pol Pot and Khmer

By raw numbers - Stalin/Mao

Because they have no good qualities (and with zero good qualities somehow makes it to the Chancellory) and starts world wars - Hitler would be responsible for the most

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You are right. Guy had zero qualities .

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He had no redeeming qualities but he had one skill. The ability to manipulate down trodden people and use their fears and prejudice against them to gain control of them. The one skill he has was used for pure evil. He was a man that envisioned a master race that he himself couldn't be considered even adjacent to, he would have been culled in the first wave and it certainly ate him up inside.

He was Charlie Manson with a bigger microphone. A creature so devoid of self-esteem he had to strip entire races and groups of their dignity, human rights, and even their lives just to try to make himself feel bigger. He died a sniveling coward as a complete and utter failure hunkered in a bunker listening to his world crumble around him. At the end he knew he had destroyed his fatherland and would be the stain that permeated the heart of Germany for the rest of time.

You are right I have never met someone who has done a 1/10th of what he did as a destroyer of worlds and evil incarnate so pure it is difficult for any human to imagine. It is fortunate for humankind that he ultimately was a megalomaniacal man who was an utter disaster as a leader of a country. A smarter man with less hubris and more tactical awareness could have drawn out the war much longer if they were as evil.

Stalin was much worse for his own country. Generally, Hitler turned out to be an economic and military (took on over a quarter of the world, including British colonies) genius by listening to his advisors and acting on it, but had evil qualities, especially near the end of the war during food shortages...but relocating a population into concentration camps period is unethical and uncalled for.

But Stalin...most incompetent fricker fiction could ever invent...and only lasted because of massive US/UK financial and manufacturing support. Patton was right, should have allied up with the Germans after the war and steamrolled the Soviets before they got nukes...almost all conflicts since then including Vietnam, the Korean War, and the Cold War would not have existed. That, and our dear allies in China at the time would not have nukes, let alone the nuclear tech transfers to India/Pakistan.

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I remember for a few brief months one of the favorite talking points was that the Nazi party were actually leftists purely because the party had "socialist" in the name.

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the Nazi party injecting incredible amounts of public funds into social programs nearly bankrupting the country really helps push this narrative.

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He had no redeeming qualities but he had one skill. The ability to manipulate down trodden people and use their fears and prejudice against them to gain control of them. The one skill he has was used for pure evil. He was a man that envisioned a master race that he himself couldn't be considered even adjacent to, he would have been culled in the first wave and it certainly ate him up inside. He was Charlie Manson with a bigger microphone. A creature so devoid of self-esteem he had to strip entire races and groups of their dignity, human rights, and even their lives just to try to make himself feel bigger. He died a sniveling coward as a complete and utter failure hunkered in a bunker listening to his world crumble around him. At the end he knew he had destroyed his fatherland and would be the stain that permeated the heart of Germany for the rest of time. You are right I have never met someone who has done a 1/10th of what he did as a destroyer of worlds and evil incarnate so pure it is difficult for any human to imagine. It is fortunate for humankind that he ultimately was a megalomaniacal man who was an utter disaster as a leader of a country. A smarter man with less hubris and more tactical awareness could have drawn out the war much longer if they were as evil.

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Amen.

"The Most Evil Men and Women in History" written by Miranda Twiss, I threw it away after I read it


A catalog of horrific evil, from the 1st century AD to the present day evil is a fact of life. We can see it, not only in the reigns of Stalin & Hitler, but also in everyday crimes like murder, rape & assault--quite apart from the millions of lives brutalized by political or religious oppression, poverty, disease & starvation. One factor unites the 16 featured in this book & the evil acts they committed: they all had unlimited power over the people whose lives they controlled. Their reigns a terror cover a time-span of nearly 2000 years, from the rule of Caligula over the Roman Empire starting in 37AD, to the genocide of educated Cambodians under Pol Pot during the 1980's. Motivated by power, religion, political belief or by sadism & lust, sometimes by insanity, they've become bywords for terror.
Introduction
Caligula, the schizophrenic emperor
Nero, fifth emperor of Rome
Attila the Hun, the "storm from the east"
King John, a callous, cold-hearted monarch
Torquemada, the Spanish inquisitor
Prince Vlad Dracula, "the impaler"
Francisco Pizarro, conqueror of the Incas
"Bloody" Mary I, "a Catholic queen in a Protestant country"
Ivan IV, 'The terrible", tsar of all the Russias
Elizabeth, Countess Bathory, "Countess Dracula"
Rasputin, the "mad monk" who brought down a dynasty
Josef Stalin, a 20th-century tyrant
Adolf Hitler, father of the final solution
Ilse Koch, the "bitch of Buchenwald"
Pol Pot, architect of genocide
Idi Amin, the butcher of East Africa