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re: UFC fighter Bryce Mitchell praises hitler on podcast. “He wanted to purify his country”

Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:52 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:52 am to
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oh contraire mon frere


I’m willing to listen to your contention to the contrary.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:55 am to
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Nah, you are saying something more idiotic, that the footage that we see of the book burnings is only of books from the Institue of Sexology. I'm telling you that is incorrect.


That is not what he said at all, goober. This is the exact quote from Darth:

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As for the books being burned by Nazis in the infamous footage we’ve all seen, the majority of those books were from an entity named “ Institut für Sexualwissenschaft”


Majority does not mean all. You're being a twat for no reason.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:08 am to
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The Most Evil Men and Women in History" written by Miranda Twiss,


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King John, a callous, cold-hearted monarch


I'm not familiar in his atrocities to throw him in with the likes of Pol Pot, Stalin, Amin, Hitler...

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Prince Vlad Dracula, "the impaler"


With a lot of these, you must look at the times. Doesn't preclude them from being evil. However, the caveat with Vlad Tepes was that his brutality was a deterrent against a much stronger military force, the Ottoman's, but also one of revenge against what they did to his family. They took Vlad and his brother as hostage and were "raised" Ottoman to assure their father's obedience to the Sultan. His brother, who was older, assimilated more to being Ottoman, but Vlad did not and was counting down the days before he could take his vengeance on the turks. The Wallachians were no match for the Ottoman's militarily, but the brutality of Vlad scared the shite out of anyone that crossed him. One of the decrees was that if you were caught stealing form a merchant, you were impaled. This made crime in Wallachia very low.

As with most dictators/rulers obscene violence was what was used to assure stability (see Sadaam Hussein for modern reference).
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:29 am to
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I’m willing to listen to your contention to the contrary.



how nice of you



decades of genocide in Africa provoked by Britain time and again, and America was silent about it, except for reporter AM Rosenthal, who was silenced

spoiled Americans cheering as Ukranian people and Russian people are used as cannon fodder, in a war provoked by America

Biden admin handlers cranking up genocide in Syria right before Trump takes office, just like they did in Yemen

covid - literally a mass murder that occurred in front of a bunch of smiling silent cucks in the world media and govts

elderly who can't afford food because of the intentional jacking up of inflation

decades of war/theft - intentional by our own country and "allies"



tip of the iceberg
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:41 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:34 am to
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They do this by pointing out the aspects of Nazism that align with traditionally conservative ideology while ignoring those aspects of Nazi ideology that align with traditional leftist ideology.

What I imagine you fail to accept is the leftist ideology present in the modern political movements being associated with Nazism (like MAGA)

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But the truth of it is both sides are wrong to try to paint the other as “Nazi”. Neither side is really Nazi because to be a true Nazi, by that I mean a Nazi of 1930s-40s Germany, would require adopting viewpoints that no modern day progressive or conservative would ever dream of supporting.

Hence why fascism is used much more often, especially in serious discussions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:35 am to
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spoiled Americans cheering as Ukranian people and Russian people are used as cannon fodder

Biden admin handlers cranking up genocide in Syria right before Trump takes office, just like they did in Yemen

covid - literally a mass murder that occurred in front of a bunch of smiling silent cucks in the world media and govts

elderly who can't afford food because of the intentional jacking up of inflation

decades of war/theft - intentional by our own country and "allies"


Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:37 am to
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how nice of you


Thank you. But I believe you missed my original point when I said no political movement like the Nazis has arisen since their demise. I wasn’t referring to their proclivity for war and murder. That aspect of Nazi ideology is far from unique to, or originates from, Hitler and his followers.

I was referring to their overarching political ideology of the NSDAP that took aspect of socialism, progressivism, capitalism, and even conservatism and melded them together in a bizarre amalgamation that would seem downright bizarre to the average person today.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:43 am to
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Hence why fascism is used much more often, especially in serious discussions.


I’d hardly consider most modern day comparisons of the American political landscape of today to fascism from the 1920s - 40s as serious. Most people who try such know as little about fascism as they do Nazism. Just as they do with Nazism, when they compare the other side to fascists, they do so because, just like Nazism, fascism took views from both the left and right of the political spectrum and melded them together. Thus, people today can point to the aspect opposite their own worldview to paint the other side as fascist. But this requires them to ignore those aspect of fascism that aligns closers to their own side of the political isle.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:44 am
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:46 am to
Nazi scientists were absorbed into the deep state bro



What you're arguing went away, never went away
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:48 am to
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. Most people who try such know as little about fascism as they do Nazism.

Fascism is somewhat of a malleable term, but Nazism is just fascism with a focus on race/ethnicity.

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fascism took views from both the left and right of the political spectrum and melded them together.

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I’d hardly consider most modern day comparisons of the American political landscape of today to fascism from the 1920s - 40s


What we're seeing in America today is the same blending of government expansion and blending of government and private enterprise that constitutes the authoritarianism that's called socialism or fascism (depending on the policy specifics and speaker).

Hence, MAGA's adoption of Leftist economic intervention and why it leads to fascist labels.

The entire "populist" angle of MAGA ultimately leads to the fascist comparisons.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:49 am
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:53 am to
That's a dumb take.
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:53 am to
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he’s also a huge conspiracy theorist so I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t believe in the holocaust

Of course
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Mitchell responded. “When you realize there’s no possible way they could’ve burned and cremated 6 million bodies, you’re gonna realize that the Holocaust ain’t real.”
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:53 am to
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He is the embodiment of your average Poli board poster


So the average PT poster thinks Hitler is praiseworthy?

This is CNN level propaganda.
Posted by BamaSaint
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:57 am to
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So the average PT poster thinks Hitler is praiseworthy?

A politard was defending Hitler on page 1 of this thread. And there are several others basically saying, "he wasn't that bad". Politics has warped their minds just as bad as Trump has warped the far left's mind
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:57 am to
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So the average PT poster thinks Hitler is praiseworthy?



There have been many times I felt like I was buying beer in Wyoming on the poli board since the Q era.

Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:59 am to
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Hence why fascism is used much more often, especially in serious discussions.




The quickest way to dismiss a discussion is when one calls another a "fascist". Thus the popularity of this meme.



Same with "racist". It's small minded people who don't really understand the meaning of the word, and most assuredly is improperly using it as a stick to beat down anyone involved in a debate that they disagree with.

Calling someoen "fascist" has no bearing on serious discussions, unless you are discussing historical fascism, and not what the media parrots.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:02 am to
Ok. So you also believe the average PT poster thinks Hitler is praiseworthy.

Interesting.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:08 am to
I guess I’m not understanding what he means by the average PT poster.

I took it to mean roughly 50 percent since there is no way to actually quantify average in this context. Perhaps the use of such a nebulous a term was purposeful for dramatic effect.

I mean how can anyone disprove such a vague statement? Does nuh uh suffice?

Anyway, there are a few apparent Jewish haters but they are indeed few.

Hiller was a psychopathic evil killer. His desire to build up Germany included the most evil thing possible so he’s definitely not worthy of any praise.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 9:12 am
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:13 am to
You’ve never purchased beer in Wyoming.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:13 am to
everything that Slow Flo says or does is a lie
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