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Uber's autonomous car had 6 seconds to prevent fatal crash but failed to act

Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:38 am
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:38 am
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The self-driving car owned by Uber that fatally struck a woman in March detected her in the road about six seconds before the crash, according to a preliminary report from the National Transportation Safety Board, which also acknowledged delayed responses from the vehicle’s automatic emergency braking system.

The NTSB said Uber engineers had disengaged the safety features of its autonomous Volvo XC90, as previously reported, which includes a collision avoidance function and automatic emergency braking.

Uber disengages Volvo’s emergency braking features when the car is in autonomous mode, so as to “reduce the potential for erratic vehicle behavior,” the NTSB said.

“The vehicle operator is relied on to intervene and take action,” the NTSB said.

Uber had only one safety operator in the car at the time, an unusual setup in the fledgling autonomous driving industry, as Jalopnik previously reported. Most companies testing self-driving cars use two operators, so one can monitor the vehicle’s autonomous driving interface at the center console, while another keeps their eyes on the road.

In a video released after the crash, the operator is seen staring down and away from the road until the moment before impact. Indeed, the vehicle operator said in an interview that “she had been monitoring the self-driving interface and that while her personal and business phones were in the vehicle neither were in use until after the crash,” according to the NTSB.


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Posted by Open Dore Policy
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:39 am to
Tesla more about it.
Posted by Gleaux93
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:40 am to
Musk you make puns?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:42 am to
So did the human driver.

Believe it or not, I hold the driver more responsible than the prototype car.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:43 am to
Talk about an Elon-gated response time
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 11:46 am to
If Uber is using Windows as the OS, > 6 seconds response time is to be expected.
Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:03 pm to
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I hold the driver more responsible than the prototype car.


yeah, have you seen that moron behind the wheel?
She braked a whole second after she hit the lady.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:06 pm to
How much money will the victims family get?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:09 pm to
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In a video released after the crash, the operator is seen staring down and away from the road until the moment before impact. Indeed, the vehicle operator said in an interview that “she had been monitoring the self-driving interface and that while her personal and business phones were in the vehicle neither were in use until after the crash,” according to the NTSB.


Women drivers.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:13 pm to
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Uber's autonomous car had 6 seconds to prevent fatal crash but failed to act


Sensationalized headlines like this will be why we can't have better things even faster.

Sooner rather than later it's going to be FAR SAFER for a machine to do the driving rather than the ape. In fact, if we care at all about driver safety and fatalities, as soon as it's shown to be even a tiny bit safer it ought to be adopted in a sweeping fashion.

Instead, we'll have both police and attorneys ginning up angst about robot cars even if it's proven that they are 95% safer and the general public will get on board with that assessment all the while driving into each other at higher and higher rates.

Posted by jackieMoon55
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:18 pm to
Tree fitty?
Posted by Open Dore Policy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:52 pm to
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Musk you make puns?


I think they're electric.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:57 pm to
We're in that dangerous middle ground where the cars aren't good enough to drive themselves completely but they do well enough 99.99% of the time which lulls the driver into a false sense of security.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:02 pm to
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Believe it or not, I hold the driver more responsible than the prototype car.


did you see the video?? driver was a convicted transvestite felon and was half asleep when the crash occurred.

you still blame the driver or uber for getting such stellar talent to blaze forth in their new robocars?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:03 pm to
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but they do well enough 99.99% of the time which lulls the driver into a false sense of security.


i have harped on this repeatedly on here and called an anti-technology luddite.

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE BIGLY difference than driver-assisted technology and 'let us do the driving for you' crap that any freshman taking a psychology class could tell you will result in people losing interest in watching the road.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:05 pm to
The hobo ran out in front of it
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:08 pm to
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i have harped on this repeatedly on here and called an anti-technology luddite. 


You do show up in most topics related to self driving vehicles.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:12 pm to
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The hobo ran out in front of it


hobo slow-walked a bike across 6 unimpeded lanes of traffic on a well-lit up street before the uber killing machine mowed her down and kept going.

FIFY
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:16 pm to
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and called an anti-technology luddite.


Well, regardless, you are.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:18 pm to
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bike

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Street

Should’ve been on the sidewalk
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