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re: Uber banning riders, drivers from carrying guns

Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:48 am to
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:48 am to
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Yet you advocate govt stepping in and telling businesses what to do when it fits your motive.

This is not a case of big government telling a business how to run their business. It's a case of individual rights, particularly 2nd Amendment rights.

There's a huge difference that you refuse to acknowledge. Telling Uber that all Uber cars have to be less than 2 years old would be an example of government intrusion. Telling Uber that they cannot force their employees to surrender their 2nd Amendment rights is not "intrusion". If you can't see this you're a dumbass.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 12:50 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:51 am to
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I would consider Uber drivers independent contractors so shouldn't they have the final say as to what is allowed in THEIR vehicle?
I totally agree with this.

Just read the article to see why they did this. So their passengers can feel more comfortable? WTF? Bunch of pussies.

I guess their passengers would feel safer being a helpless victim.

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In April, an Uber driver with a concealed-carry permit shot a 22-year-old man who had opened fire on a group of pedestrians in Chicago. Court records say the man was shooting at pedestrians who were walking in front of the Uber driver's vehicle, and the driver shot the gunman. The driver wasn't charged, as prosecutors said he acted in defense of himself and others.
Oh my God! A driver shot someone! (Even though it was a maniac shooting pedestrians). "We can't have this happening!
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 1:10 am
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:05 am to
This thread is so frickin lame
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:09 am to
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What's Uber's justification for this policy?


Just feel good bullshite and ignorantly going for the emotional response in banning guns and still ignoring data that says gun free zones do not work. They did it after one of their drivers with a concealed carry used his weapon to prevent a mass shooting by some dude who started shooting into a crowd in front of him. Story here.

It's strange and interesting how the conservative Tigerdroppings OT is dick riding Uber on this issue and liberal reddit in r/news looks like a bunch of gun nuts bashing Uber for this policy. Weird.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 1:10 am
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:16 am to
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Make customers feel comfortable? Gee I sure am comfortable knowing I have no way to protect myself or my family while using this POS service. BTW Lyft has the same policy.

Hopefully this liberal POS company burns to the ground.

God, you are fricking stupid.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:25 am to
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It's funny how some of you guys think this should be the Wild West where everyone carries guns all the time. Things like the Charleston shooting probably will still happen. It's called being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Do you honestly think those old church ladies would have gone into "action movie mode" like so many of you fantasize about?

of course they would have!!!!

and it's not like gun control will solve anything! If that guy really wanted to kill all those people he would have found a way no matter what!!!!!

!!!!!
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 1:59 am to
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it's not like gun control will solve anything


True statement.



quote:

If that guy really wanted to kill all those people he would have found a way no matter what


Also a true statement.

33 dead and 140 wounded in mass knife attack

a single, very small 16 year old was able to wound at least 24 people with a knife in just 5 minutes
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:25 am to
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Also a true statement.



Nice examples!

Just as I'm sure there are many people who have wanted to shoot up schools, but they don't have the means to do it, so they refrained from an attack altogether.

ETA: "No fatalities have been reported" in your second example. I wonder if that would have been the case had the attacker had a gun?
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 4:28 am
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:26 am to
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What are you talking about?

Are you talking about data recorders?


No this OMLandshark guy has zero clue what he's talking about he's just running his mouth. He's trying to claim every car in the last five year has low jack or the equivalent pre installed from the factory and not only that but uber requires them to have a car newer than 5 years so uber can use the low jack on the car. None of the above it true.
Posted by N2cars
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 6:52 am to
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OMLandshark guy has zero clue


Not a surprise.

I can only assume he's talking about data recorders which have been on most cars for longer than 5 years. Other than GM's OnStar, cars don't really have LoJak-type devices as standard equipment.

He may talking about AM/FM radios. Maybe that's a new thing in MS.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:43 am to
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So private businesses are only allowed freedom to do as they please, except when its something you don't like?


No, unlike a SJW, I feel that Uber has every right to do this. I support their right to do so. I don't feel the need to force everyone to embrace my philosophy.

Also, how are the Uber drivers in NOLA going to like this? Every cab driver I have ever ridden with there has been strapped.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 7:46 am
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:46 am to
We all have different versions of freedom/liberty and its almost always self serving. You're no different than the "libs" you hate so much.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:55 am to
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How many people do you think have a firearm in their vehicle at any given time? It's gotta be like 1/1000.


I'm no gun nut that thinks everyone should be carrying because it will save the world, but I was raised around firearms and am not really "scared" because there's a gun around. Gun's don't kill people, people kill people. Yes it makes it easier, but do you freak out every time you cross a cross walk in front of a car. The driver could floor it and run you over at any point if they wanted to. But you don't think of them as evil for having that capability, because it's just a car and not some big bad gun. But for some reason, having a gun is "bad". Both instances require the person to want to kill you, and both instances give the person equal opportunity.

And to the quote, I think you'd be surprised, at least in gun friendly states, how many people do have guns in their vehicles. I'm very surprised how many people I talk to who have their concealed license. I'd say (at least with males) 10-20% have a gun in their vehicle at least some of the time.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:20 am to
I grew up around guns in a gun friendly state that I currently live in. I own a gun. That being said in the grand scheme of things, almost no one carries a gun in their vehicle. I'm not for gun control at all.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:52 am to
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It's a case of individual rights, particularly 2nd Amendment rights.


You don't have second amendment rights in a workplace. Seriously, go test it out where you work by bringing a fully loaded shotgun and openly swinging it around. You'd get fired in a second. Uber isn't saying they can't carry on their off time, but when they're on the clock, you don't carry a gun. This is the same as any other workplace.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:57 am to
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No this OMLandshark guy has zero clue what he's talking about he's just running his mouth. He's trying to claim every car in the last five year has low jack or the equivalent pre installed from the factory and not only that but uber requires them to have a car newer than 5 years so uber can use the low jack on the car. None of the above it true.



Most cars have satellite radio capabilities if they were built in the past 5 years. In order for that to happen, the satellite has to find the damn car. Almost all cars built in the past several years have GPS tracking in it whether you know it or not. This is a big reason why most criminals are smart enough not to drive their own cars when they're on the run.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:02 am to
The ability for your car to detect a widely broadcast signal from a satellite does not equate the satellite being able to find the car.
Posted by N2cars
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Member since Feb 2008
37995 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:03 am to
Umm, you sure about that Clark?

Cell phones send and receive.
Sat radios just receive. (assuming they are activated)

If Law enforcement can track any car with sat radio, why would you need LoJak?
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
45159 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:12 am to
Conservative posters only believe in private corporations being able to choose their own policies when it aligns with their agenda. Got it.

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 9:13 am to
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You don't have second amendment rights in a workplace.


This is not a law in every state for sure, but in Louisiana, the 2nd amendment is upheld in your vehicle. Your employer cannot legally require that you do not have a firearm in your vehicle even on company property unless they provide a secure location for you to store you firearm while you are on the company's property. This is on the books so that an individual does not lose the ability to maintain their 2nd amendment right on their commute to work just because the company won't allow it on their property. So yes, private property has rights to say if guns are allowed, but this would get a little blurry when it comes to operating your personal vehicle as a company vehicle.

I could see Uber not allowing while you are contracted for a fare. But according to the law, they would have to provide you with a secure location to hold the firearm while you are working that fare.
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