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re: Uber banning riders, drivers from carrying guns
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:35 pm to WaltTeevens
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:35 pm to WaltTeevens
quote:Wow, now people are "vigilantes" for protecting themselves? I'm not arguing whether Uber drivers will now be robbed or not, I'm arguing whether they should have a right to carry a gun in their private vehicle, and licensed concealed carriers.
Well, if they don't like it, they can hit the bricks and start their own gun-totin', vigilante justice car ride service. I can see wanting to quit jobs for many reasons, but "They wouldn't let me carry a gun" isn't a really rational one.
It's a small thing called "liberty". Maybe you people have heard about it before?
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:36 pm to OMLandshark
Why do you assume they will "rob" the uber driver in terms of monetary money? What about a carjacking? I'm sure in your perfect world there is no such thing.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:40 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Why do you assume they will "rob" the uber driver in terms of monetary money? What about a carjacking
Because not only will they have the car jackers information, but they will also be able to track the car through GPS per Uber. He would be caught within the hour. Your point is still idiocy of the highest order.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:42 pm to bhtigerfan
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Wow, now people are "vigilantes" for protecting themselves? I'm not arguing whether Uber drivers will now be robbed or not, I'm arguing whether they should have a right to carry a gun in their private vehicle, and licensed concealed carriers.
It's a small thing called "liberty". Maybe you people have heard about it before?
How about this.....When I take an Uber, I'm 100% sure I don't have a gun. I'd rather be 100% sure they don't have a gun. Might they anyway? I don't know, but I'd rather have a policy against them than requiring them. I'd taken tons of taxi and Uber rides, and I've never felt the need to what amounts as a very amateur would be Air Marshal driving me around.
Someone said they won't live their lives out of fear of the least likely scenario. I'll go with that.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:43 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Absolutely, but you can be fired for it.
You really think you have the right to free speech when you're working?
quote:Yes they can, and you can sue them for wrongful termination. My point is, some company policies can be deemed illegal and unenforceable.
The only rights you have with a company is to not be discriminated against if you're a protected class or a whistle blower, and that's really it. Try any other shite, and they can fire you without any issue.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:44 pm to bhtigerfan
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It's a small thing called "liberty". Maybe you people have heard about it before?
Test out your "liberty" when you go to work tomorrow. Tell your boss to frick off and carry a fully loaded shotgun and wave it around in the workplace. I'm an HR minor, and trust me, freely practicing your first two amendments will get you fired in almost all workplaces.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:48 pm to OMLandshark
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Because not only will they have the car jackers information, but they will also be able to track the car through GPS per Uber. He would be caught within the hour. Your point is still idiocy of the highest order.
Dumbass someone who didn't order the uber carjacks them. No info required. Due to the terms of their employment they are disarmed.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:49 pm to bhtigerfan
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Yes they can, and you can sue them for wrongful termination. My point is, some company policies can be deemed illegal and unenforceable.
And the only way you can win in a suit with a company is if they fired you for being a member of a protected class, that you are a whistleblower, or they violated a contract by firing you, and that's it. You can't sue and win a suit where you told someone to frick off.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:49 pm to OMLandshark
These people still don't really know what Uber is or how it works. Shouldn't be a surprise, though.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:51 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Dumbass someone who didn't order the uber carjacks them. No info required. Due to the terms of their employment they are disarmed.
They still have the GPS coordinates though. Uber requires that. They catch the guy within the hour. Please keep proving how stupid you are. I find this entertaining.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:51 pm to WaltTeevens
quote:Wait, why would you be fearful of an Uber driver who has a gun in his vehicle?
How about this.....When I take an Uber, I'm 100% sure I don't have a gun. I'd rather be 100% sure they don't have a gun. Might they anyway? I don't know, but I'd rather have a policy against them than requiring them.
quote:Fine if you don't want to carry a gun, but why take away someone else's right to do so? He's carrying it for his or her protection, not yours.
I've taken tons of taxi and Uber rides, and I've never felt the need to what amounts as a very amateur would be Air Marshal driving me around.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:51 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Dumbass someone who didn't order the uber carjacks them. No info required. Due to the terms of their employment they are disarmed.
I thought the whole point was that Uber drivers are now targets BECAUSE criminals know they don't carry? How many people do you think have a firearm in their vehicle at any given time? It's gotta be like 1/1000.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:54 pm to bhtigerfan
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Fine if you don't want to carry a gun, but why take away someone else's right to do so?
Because they're a private business who has the FREEDOM to make their own policies. Why's that so hard to get?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:54 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Well, the GPS in Ubers is phone based. So, the GPS could be disabled by a carjacker if they turned the drivers phone off. HOWEVA the make, model, license plate #, and last known location would still be right there. As soon as the crime was reported, the perp would have to ditch the car immediately and hope the driver/passenger didn't get too good of a look at their face.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:54 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Dumbass someone who didn't order the uber carjacks them. No info required. Due to the terms of their employment they are disarmed.
The car itself has GPS tracking on it, you dipshit. Please keep proving you can barely feed yourself.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:56 pm to OMLandshark
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They still have the GPS coordinates though. Uber requires that. They catch the guy within the hour. Please keep proving how stupid you are. I find this entertaining.
You are so fricking dumb it's incomprehensible. GPS coordinates are cool and all but cops aren't out scouring the city for stolen cars. Also it's easy to see a phone with a iPhone cradle with big arse uber app on the screen to say oh okay put the window this goes and or pull the Sim like any criminal would do instantly upon finding an iPhone.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:56 pm to OMLandshark
quote:I know this. I'm talking about a company policy that infringes on your rights.
You can't sue and win a suit where you told someone to frick off.
Like this. LINK
What we're you saying earlier about having no rights?
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Its against Wisconsin law for a company to terminate an employee for having a gun in their vehicle.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:57 pm to OMLandshark
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The car itself has GPS tracking on it
No it doesn't
Posted on 6/21/15 at 7:57 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Right, right. But you're getting off topic.
Again. I thought Uber drivers were now targets because bad guys know they don't carry?
Again. I thought Uber drivers were now targets because bad guys know they don't carry?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 8:08 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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You are so fricking dumb it's incomprehensible. GPS coordinates are cool and all but cops aren't out scouring the city for stolen cars. Also it's easy to see a phone with a iPhone cradle with big arse uber app on the screen to say oh okay put the window this goes and or pull the Sim like any criminal would do instantly upon finding an iPhone.
First off, you calling me stupid is an incredible compliment. All that says to me is that you can't fathom basic reasoning, in that you are stupid. Also anyone who blindly says anything they find stupid is "liberal", I find them to be a simpleton who can't fathom anything but absolutes. You just see democrats as the bad guys, so anything you disagree with must be liberal. I leave simple thoughts for simple people, like yourself.
And yeah, a guy puts a guy up to gunpoint who works for Uber, and if his car was made in the past 5 years (ie: just about all Uber cars were) then they have a GPS tracker built in. They would quite easily find him within the hour. Now shut the frick up and let the people with IQs in the triple digits talk.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 8:10 pm
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