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Two Charged with Operating Chinese "Secret Police Station" in New York
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:23 pm
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It's pretty wild that a foreign country has the nuts to set up clandestine operations in the US. to retrieve individuals they believe detrimental to the state through force or coercion. They also get away with it. If China is doing that, what else are they doing we don't know about?
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U.S. federal agents arrested two New York residents for allegedly operating a Chinese "secret police station" in the Chinatown district of Manhattan on Monday in what prosecutors said was part of a crackdown on Beijing's alleged targeting of dissidents. Lu Jianwang, 61, and Chen Jinping, 59, face charges of conspiring to act as agents of China's government without informing U.S. authorities and obstruction of justice. They were released on bond following an initial appearance in Brooklyn federal court. A 2022 investigation published by Spain-based advocacy group Safeguard Defenders reported that China had set up overseas "service stations," including in New York, that illegally worked with Chinese police to pressure fugitives to return to China. The Chinese government has said there are centers outside China run by local volunteers, not Chinese police officers, that aim to help Chinese citizens renew documents and offer other services.
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The Department of Justice has been ramping up probes into what it calls "transnational repression" by U.S. adversaries such as China and Iran to intimidate political opponents living in the United States. "We cannot and will not tolerate the Chinese government's persecution of pro-democracy activists who have sought refuge in this country," Breon Peace, the top federal prosecutor in Brooklyn, told reporters. Prosecutors on Monday unveiled charges against 34 Chinese officials for allegedly operating a "troll farm" and harassing dissidents online, including by disrupting their meetings on U.S. technology platforms. They also added eight Chinese government officials as defendants in a case announced in 2020 charging a former China-based executive of Zoom Video Communications Inc (ZM.O) with disrupting video meetings commemorating the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests.
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"By initiating prosecution against Chinese citizens under the pretext of 'transnational repression', the U.S. side is exercising long-arm jurisdiction based on fabricated charges. This is sheer political manipulation, and the purpose is to smear China’s image," said Liu Pengyu, a spokesperson for the Chinese embassy in the U.S. HELPING LOCATE 'FUGITIVES' Lu and Chen are both U.S. citizens who lead a nonprofit organization that lists its mission as providing a social gathering place for people from China's Fujian province, prosecutors said. Before it closed in the fall of 2022, the men's New York operation occupied a full floor in a nondescript building in Chinatown near the Manhattan Bridge. Peace said the site was being used "at the very least" for government services like helping some Chinese citizens renew their drivers licenses' - activity that should have been disclosed to U.S. authorities. But he said it was also used for more "sinister" activities. In 2022, Lu helped open the so-called police station and was asked by China's government to locate an individual living in California who was considered a pro-democracy activist, they added. In 2018, Lu had sought to persuade an individual considered a fugitive by China to return home, prosecutors said.
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Prosecutors said Lu and Chen admitted to the FBI that they deleted their communications with a Chinese government official. FBI Director Christopher Wray told a U.S. Senate committee in November that he was "very concerned" about the presence of such stations in U.S. cities. Prosecutors previously charged more than a dozen Chinese nationals and others with waging surveillance and harassment campaigns against dissidents living in the United States, including by trying to forcibly repatriate people whom China considered fugitives.
It's pretty wild that a foreign country has the nuts to set up clandestine operations in the US. to retrieve individuals they believe detrimental to the state through force or coercion. They also get away with it. If China is doing that, what else are they doing we don't know about?
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:28 pm to AllDayEveryDay
I thought this was going to be a massage parlor sting story.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:29 pm to AllDayEveryDay
China rarely uses active spies in Western democracies, but they do use special agents to crack down on, threaten, and kidnap those of Chinese heritage that don’t spy for China.
American citizens of Chinese heritage with family back in China, as well as those on work or school visas, are routinely expected to spy for China. If they don’t, then their special agents will hunt them down.
American citizens of Chinese heritage with family back in China, as well as those on work or school visas, are routinely expected to spy for China. If they don’t, then their special agents will hunt them down.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:35 pm to Ghost of Colby
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China rarely uses active spies in Western democracies
Why would they when they can buy politicians more easily.
Spy raft is difficult work, especially if you can’t blend in. While there are plenty of Chinese in the US they still don’t blend in or assimilate well.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:38 pm to AllDayEveryDay
The whole planet just shits all over this biden shite show.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:41 pm to AllDayEveryDay
quote:China has set up police stations in several countries. In broad daylight. I think Italy is one of them.
It's pretty wild that a foreign country has the nuts to set up clandestine operations in the US. to retrieve individuals they believe detrimental to the state through force or coercion
I’m pretty sure this was known to be happening for awhile on US soil. The DOJ finally decided to strike.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:43 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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While there are plenty of Chinese in the US they still don’t blend in or assimilate well
They don’t have to blend in or assimilate as long as they have access to pertinent data, research, patents, blueprints, etc through their work or school.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:53 pm to AllDayEveryDay
the FBI view upon entering the station.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:55 pm to AllDayEveryDay
Apparently the DOJ is not too concerned about this….they released the guys on bond!
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:58 pm to Spankum
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Apparently the DOJ is not too concerned about this….they released the guys on bond!
Are there not any locked up WNBA players in Beijing that we could have traded them for?
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:59 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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unveiled charges against 34 Chinese officials for allegedly operating a "troll farm" and harassing dissidents online, including by disrupting their meetings on U.S. technology platforms.
Was that wrong?
But seriously .. you can be charged for trolling now? el gaucho—you’re next
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:04 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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It's pretty wild that a foreign country has the nuts to set up clandestine operations in the US. to retrieve individuals they believe detrimental to the state through force or coercion.
Do you think we’re not doing the same shite in China, Russia and the Middle East?
Because I can sit here with zero sources on the situation and tell you with 100% certainty that we damn well are.
And did they get away with it? They were caught and “released on bond”. At the very least they will be sent back to a very unhappy very unforgiving government. And likely you’re being lied to and they’re in a deep dark hole without fingernails right now.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:05 pm to AllDayEveryDay
It’s not surprising with a drooling Obama puppet and a woke DOJ at the helm.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:12 pm to AllDayEveryDay
Just a BS retaliation op by the Biden administration regarding the CCP releasing banking information of the Bidens to the Republicans.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:15 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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If China is doing that, what else are they doing we don't know about?
1/3 of university foreign exchange students are from China and they pay higher tuition to come here. The CCP has a powerful influence on American universities.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:17 pm to CottonWasKing
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Do you think we’re not doing the same shite in China, Russia and the Middle East?
Do you really think the U.S. government has agents spread out all over the world tracking down any and all American expatriates living peacefully just because they refuse spy for the U.S government?
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Because I can sit here with zero sources on the situation and tell you with 100% certainty that we damn well are.
And you won’t find a single source that will substantiate your claim. However, there are thousands of verified sources that have testified that China does.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:29 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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Jianwang, 61, and Chen Jinping, 59, face charges of conspiring to act as agents of China's government without informing U.S. authorities and obstruction of justice. They were released on bond
They are spies and they should be executed without trial.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:35 am to AllDayEveryDay
I believe this is becoming a big issue in Canada.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 5:26 am to jlu03
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I believe this is becoming a big issue in Canada
I'm not sure Canada considers it an issue.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 5:40 am to AllDayEveryDay
Remember the good ole days when all they did was put pee pee in our Coke?
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