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re: Twitter loses immunity over user-generated content in India
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:36 pm to Scruffy
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:36 pm to Scruffy
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My general medical viewpoint is that no one should allow their kids to use any form of social media until college and phones, given at age 16 when they can drive, should have only the ability to make phone calls and send/receive texts.
hey look, personal responsibility!
what a concept
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Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:37 pm to Salmon
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I just named TD
TD isn't Facebook, Twitter, or YouTube. TD isn't even remotely in the same ballpark as them.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:38 pm to Centinel
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TD isn't Facebook, Twitter, or YouTube. TD isn't even remotely in the same ballpark as them.
Ok
Give me the measure or limit so that we can codify it
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:46 pm to Salmon
As if any of my stances and wants would ever be applied to reality anyway.
Twitter and Facebook will not be erased.
They will continue to grow into even larger entities who will ultimately have a level of control over society that there will be no going back.
Even if there was some removal of their immunity, the result would likely have no teeth, since that is the current level of control they already exhibit.
Twitter and Facebook will not be erased.
They will continue to grow into even larger entities who will ultimately have a level of control over society that there will be no going back.
Even if there was some removal of their immunity, the result would likely have no teeth, since that is the current level of control they already exhibit.
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:47 pm to Scruffy
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As if any of my stances and wants would ever be applied to reality anyway.
trust me, I feel you
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:49 pm to Centinel
quote:TD is the same concept and any website that does not openly permit the expression of their posters within the confines of the legal system in which they are housed should be deemed a producer.
TD isn't Facebook, Twitter, or YouTube. TD isn't even remotely in the same ballpark as them.
I would permit work arounds, in that, take TD for example, if they do not want all boards to be inundated with crap, they should allow for a singular board where that can happen.
But that is the extent I am willing to allow.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:49 pm to TMRebel
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The only possible thing this results in is Twitter taking a more active stance against conservative voices and folks that are critical of governments. I hate Twitter, Facebook, et al, as much as the next guy, but if Twitter is liable for the shite that gets posted on their platform, I'd imagine that immunity wouldn't be given to Chicken in the same situation for TD.
ATT isnt liable for someone’s actions if they use the phone to communicate it.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:50 pm to LSUAngelHere1
quote:ATT doesn’t actively edit your phone calls.
ATT isnt liable for someone’s actions if they use the phone to communicate it
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:52 pm to dawgfan24348
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And here we see conservatives abandon their small government values to own the libs
Well the internet is also a public utility now. I don’t recall conservatives ever demanding a company to stop to providing a public utility to Democrats.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:53 pm to Scruffy
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ATT doesn’t actively edit your phone calls.
Exactly. That’s my point. They don’t do that bc they’re not liable for what you say. Yet that doesn’t stop Democrats from trying to use that argument.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:54 pm to Salmon
remember that conversation we had earlier today about who on TD is responsible for making topics political?
looks like it was dawgfan in this thread. known lefty.
looks like it was dawgfan in this thread. known lefty.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:56 pm to Salmon
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ok and now you want that same government to regulate them more? all in the name of safety or whatever?
So companies should be able to discriminate now? I can’t keep up.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:56 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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Exactly. That’s my point. They don’t do that bc they’re not liable for what you say. Yet that doesn’t stop Democrats from trying to use that argument.
why are you conflating utility with online publisher?
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:57 pm to LSUAngelHere1
quote:The difference is that the websites aren’t currently liable for what you say, but they still edit it.
Exactly. That’s my point. They don’t do that bc they’re not liable for what you say. Yet that doesn’t stop Democrats from trying to use that argument.
Maybe I am misunderstanding your point.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:57 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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So companies should be able to discriminate now?
Yes.
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I can’t keep up.
Obviously.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:58 pm to Salmon
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and I find it hard to believe that you are this shortsighted
The long game is a platform that doesnt edit legal user content.
I dont shed a tear for cnn when they get sued for defamation and lose. I wouldnt shed one for twitter or youtube (because of their behavior).
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why are you pretending that only YT and Twitter are user generated sites?
You dont seem to comprehend the difference between a public space and published/edited forum. You can go to your public square and enjoy free speech. You can go on a private phone, email, letter correspondence and enjoy free speech. If you slander me, i cant sue the phone company, isp provider, or us postal service for liabilities. But if you slander me on fox news, then fox news may be liable for the content that they choose to air.
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are you advocating for the government to actively pick winners and losers here
No. I am advocating that the government has already picked winners by not subjecting twitter and youtube to the same consequences of CNN and the New York Times op ed.
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because that is what it seems y'all are arguing
You are slow if you think i want censorship. I dont. I want fair and equal treatment. Not corporatism, favoratism, and legal shields for mega companies like youtube and twitter. If the twitter platform wrongs me, i should be able to sue twitter because they regularly edit/modify/promote specific content and language. It is a free country. They should have the right to choose to be a platform or publisher. They have a long track record as a publisher.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:58 pm to Scruffy
I freaking love this.
Either post truthful shite or gtfo
Either post truthful shite or gtfo
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:02 pm to meansonny
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The long game is a platform that doesnt edit legal user content.
Sure.
But platforms should have that right as well.
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You dont seem to comprehend the difference between a public space and published/edited forum.
I absolutely understand it.
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No. I am advocating that the government has already picked winners by not subjecting twitter and youtube to the same consequences of CNN and the New York Times op ed.
Right. So you are advocating for Chicken to have to approve every single post on TD before he allows it to be posted.
Awesome, right?
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You are slow if you think i want censorship. I dont. I want fair and equal treatment.
You will never have fair and equal with subjective measures.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:03 pm to SCLibertarian
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Social media exists as an end-run around the 1st and 4th Amendments. Collusion between big tech and big government is a hallmark of a fascist state, and yet those on the political left, who claimed to resist fascism, are too stupid to realize they're being duped.
All of this is true.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:05 pm to Salmon
quote:That is one extreme.
Right. So you are advocating for Chicken to have to approve every single post on TD before he allows it to be posted.
Awesome, right?
What about the other aspect where TD wouldn’t be considered a publisher?
Twitter and Facebook could do that too, where they do not arbitrarily edit or choose what can and cannot be posted.
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 4:07 pm
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