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Turkey Successfully Conducts Maiden Flight of 5th Generation Fighter

Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:05 pm
Turkey now becomes the fourth country in the world after USA, China, and Russia to manufacture their own 5th generation fighter jet in-house.

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This achievement along with Turkey's advanced drone and UAV industry firmly solidifies them as the preeminent military power in the middle east
Posted by Scooter McWinner
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:06 pm to
I started reading the thread title and thought this was about a bird.

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preeminent military power in the middle east
Half of Turkey is in Europe (other half is in my belly, lol). Maybe they have best military tech, but they're probably not the most powerful nation overall in ME...
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Olric
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:07 pm to
This thread made me hungary
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:08 pm to
F22 clone without thrust vectoring

Pretty sexy looking IMO
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:18 pm to
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Maybe they have best military tech, but they're probably not the most powerful nation overall in ME...


i would say definitely #1. Iran has the brain and manpower, but not the money thanks to sanctions.

Egypt has the manpower but not the brain power.

Those are really the only 2 contenders in the region that could potentially challenge that claim. I don't consider India nor Pakistan as middle east countries.
Posted by Hayekian serf
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:20 pm to
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hungary


I see what you did there
Posted by texn
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by MiloDanglers
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:28 pm to
The landing gear doesnt go up?
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 5:29 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:31 pm to
That was my observation as well. They don’t have a 5th gen they are building it. Its not production or combat ready after watching both links.
Posted by texn
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:33 pm to
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The landing gear doesnt go up?


Maiden flights of military jets usually are short & they don't raise the landing gear
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:36 pm to
Next step is to begin designing one with retractable landing gear.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:17 pm to
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not production or combat ready


The F22 is the only 5th gen fighter that can actually be deployed and used to affect the outcome of a war.

Eta: and will be until our next 5th gen is deployable
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 6:18 pm
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:20 pm to
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F22 clone without thrust vectoring


I thought thrust vectoring was one of the top qualifications to be a 5th generation fighter? Isn’t that what makes the F35 not 5th generation?
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:22 pm to
Is it unable to retract the landing gear?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:23 pm to
To me, the definition of 5th gen is in the same class as the F22. The SU57 is the only thing that theoretically might be able to claim that, and it's absolutely not combat deployable.

And we've had F22s battle ready for like 30 years now

Merica frick yea
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:27 pm to
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The F22 is the only 5th gen fighter that can actually be deployed and used to affect the outcome of a war.

Eta: and will be until our next 5th gen is deployable


F35 is 5th gen and is deployed. its rumoured that China's J-20 has been deployed around the south china sea and near india.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:29 pm to
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F35 is 5th gen and is deployed.


Fairly certain it’s technically not
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:31 pm to
I think the 35 is widely considered a 4+ and the J20 is rumored to be vastly over-sold on capability.

I'm sticking with my original statement.
Posted by Cuz413
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:44 pm to
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Fairly certain it’s technically not



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Operating as the 421st Air Expeditionary Squadron, the F-35s first deployed July 26, when the fifth-generation fighters were rushed to the region by the Pentagon after Iranian attacks on commercial shipping around the Strait of Hormuz, the strategic chokepoint between the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman through which 20 percent of the world’s oil flows.


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