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re: Turkey Successfully Conducts Maiden Flight of 5th Generation Fighter
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:49 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:49 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
I think the 35 is widely considered a 4+
i've never heard the F35 described as 4+ or 4.5 generation. it is pure 5th generation...5th gen fighters dont have their weapons exposed visibly (like the F16, F15 etc), they're stored internally.
also the J-20 was copied (stolen) from the F22 by the chinese. its definitely 5th gen
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 6:51 pm
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:09 pm to Boodis Man
Them stolen Lockheed plans getting sold all over the world not
W by the China men.
W by the China men.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:13 pm to Boodis Man
KAAAAAN!
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:30 pm to Boodis Man
Just because it resembles an f-22/35 on the surface doesn’t make it a fifth generation aircraft. Does it have radar absorbing materials? Those engines probably still leave a nice heat signature too.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:33 pm to Boodis Man
quote:
i've never heard the F35 described as 4+ or 4.5 generation. it is pure 5th generation...5th gen fighters dont have their weapons exposed visibl
It doesn’t have thrust vectoring right? That’s kinda a big deal
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:53 pm to Boodis Man
Doesn't the su57 carry externally?
I thought I remembered the 35 widely being considered a 4+ type fighter but I guess I stand corrected.
Regardless, aint nobody fielding 5th gen stuff to any effect besides us.
I thought I remembered the 35 widely being considered a 4+ type fighter but I guess I stand corrected.
Regardless, aint nobody fielding 5th gen stuff to any effect besides us.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:58 pm to baldona
Thrust vectoring isn’t that new. Several gen4 Russian fighters have it. It’s nice to have in a merge but a true 5th gen fighter should never get that deep into the fight.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:01 pm to baldona
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It doesn’t have thrust vectoring right? That’s kinda a big deal
Not really. If F-35s are engaging within visual range then they’ve already failed.
5th gen is about BVR capabilities. Radar cross section, IR signature, data links, sensor fusion, etc.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:01 pm to Scooter McWinner
quote:
I started reading the thread title and thought this was about a bird.
I thought it was about a bird too
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:02 pm to jmh5724
There's a valid school of thought that a 5th fight might have to happen at the merge because the countermeasures are so good. It could devolve to a gunfight, which is crazy to consider.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:03 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:uhhhhhhhh what
I think the 35 is widely considered a 4+
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:05 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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There's a valid school of thought that a 5th fight might have to happen at the merge because the countermeasures are so good. It could devolve to a gunfight, which is crazy to consider.
That would be a failure at an operational level to not have AWACS or ground control stations to direct fighters. If it comes to that, the side without eyes is already dead.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:05 pm to WestCoastAg
Look I already apologized to you buncha nerds
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