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re: Trump plans to visit an American monument for July 4th - Native Americans aren’t happy

Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:50 am to
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Link?


www.google.com

Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:51 am to
Im getting so offended by people who are easily offended
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:55 am to
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Nick Tilsen, a member of the Oglala Lakota tribe


I have a strong distaste for referring to Native American groups as savages. If the name ever applied, though, it would be to the Lakota Sioux.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 10:04 am
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:57 am to
Go back to your country!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:06 am to
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Mount Rushmore is a symbol of white supremacy, of structural racism that’s still alive and well in society today


It's almost Ike the people are in the same cult..
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:06 am to
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*conquered



No. We stole all their shite. If anyone in this country has a beef, it's the Native Americans.
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:07 am to
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"Mount Rushmore is a symbol of white supremacy, of structural racism that’s still alive and well in society today," said Nick Tilsen, a member of the Oglala Lakota tribe


Isn't Mr. Tilsen's name a symbol of white supremacy?
Posted by toratiger
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:08 am to
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Didn't they used to eat each other, scalp each other, disembowel each other and bury each other alive for the ants to eat?
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They also had slaves.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11683 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:14 am to
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They also had slaves.





He's right you know.

I hate hypocrites more than anything. Problem is we have a shite ton of them.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62226 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:17 am to
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I hate hypocrites more than anything. Problem is we have a shite ton of them.


We’re all hypocrites in one way or another. Many will never admit to it, though. Especially the virtuous ones.
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:18 am to
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Well they can just go ahead and finish Crazy Horse then


Crazy horse was commissioned by a Lakota chief without the tribes consent. This, along with lack of funds, is why it hasn't been completed.

The statement that "they shouldn't have lost" as to why they no longer own the land isn't entirely factual. They lost and succumbed to a much more powerful nation. I don't 100% subscribe to the "stolen land" mentality as treaties were agreed to and signed by both parties that defined boundaries as to what was Lakota land vs what was American land. The problem is that American's broke these treaties and took what they wanted as they were more powerful. This is what I don't agree with.

Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71735 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:21 am to
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Native Americans who view the monument as a desecration of land violently stolen from them and used to pay homage to leaders hostile to native people.


We call this "conquest" or "conquering" and it has been going on throughout history in all parts of the world. Sucks to suck but you should have done a better job defending your lands if you indeed wanted to keep them.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62226 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:22 am to
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No. We stole all their shite.


Through conquest
Posted by Harry Morgan
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:25 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79864 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:30 am to
I’m not gonna sit here and tell a Native American they shouldn’t have beef with the US.

At the same time I cant Get too high on a high horse about it as I’m currently living on the land we took from them and have no intention of leaving.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:30 am to


Fun Fact most indians gladly embraced western Civ.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:30 am to
Why do we care what the losing side thinks...
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:46 am to
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We call this "conquest" or "conquering" and it has been going on throughout history in all parts of the world. Sucks to suck but you should have done a better job defending your lands if you indeed wanted to keep them.



Well, the USA had one integrated Army. That helped. Had all tribes across the US come together don't you think it would have been a bit of a different story? They knew how to fight. They just weren't organized.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8721 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:51 am to
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quote:
Nick Tilsen, a member of the Oglala Lakota tribe


I have a strong distaste for referring to Native American groups as savages. If the name ever applied, though, it would be to the Lakota Sioux.


And the Comanche
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:52 am to
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land violently stolen from them


They didn't "own" the land. They didn't even have a word for ownership.

If they did not want the white man on the land they should not have been nomadic.

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