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re: True Story: From Mother's Hospital at UAB, The Dark Side of Medicine

Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:10 pm to
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The doctor in training, came in our room with a mask, of course, and talked with my mom for like 30 minutes. My mother was engaging, energetic, inquisitive, positive, etc. The doctor said, several times, that she rarely speaks with people like this, and she is happy to actually get to have a normal convo with someone. Her head doctor, waddled in a couple hours later, and he reminded you of the guys you are warned about in middle school. Just a strange bird. He starts talking to my mother as if she is a toddler, and asking rudimentary questions. She answers, and they have a basic convo. His manner is weird, and he's one of those people that give you a bad vibe. He stated, "we don't know what the future holds, so just in case, we will prescribe you x and y just in case". I was like, hold up. Have you read her chart? What were the results? She isn't depressed or unmotivated or anything.


Is it possible that the resident was just being kind to your mom but probably noticed cognitive decline or depression that might benefit from treatment? It’s seem much more likely than some academic attending pushing expensive prescriptions. And being hostile in theses situations is almost never the right thing to do.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6670 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:13 pm to
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If a doctor's first reaction is to write scripts "just in case", then they deserve to be questioned, and if they cannot give reasonable answers, then they deserve to be told to GTFO. I cannot understand why some people want to act as if someone with M.D. after their name can do no wrong and should never be questioned. The covid bullshite should have opened everyone's eyes.



Amen.
My entire point in the thread.

Well that, and I have a pool house.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:18 pm to
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People view the medical field like a fricking mechanic’s shop.
funny you say this.


My wife thinks doctors can fix everything. I'm on the exact opposite end and feel doctors are a waste of my time and resources.

But she goes see doctors and actually gets helpful care. Then she convinces me I should go see a doctor about something and the entire process ends up being laughable where she even ends up agreeing the situation was a joke.... but then down the road she is back trying to talk me into seeing a doctor again.


It's a very consistent cycle in our home.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38098 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:21 pm to
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my wife suggested we request a visit with a psychiatric doctor
Sounds like you should have taken the advice of a medical doctor over that of your wife.

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Doctors should teach nutrition not pharmaceutical addiction.
Do you not know the difference between a psychologist and a nutritionist?
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:24 pm to
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Posted by DarthTiger
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Posted by Harry Boutte
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:51 pm to
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The world is ran by stupid people




Never gets old.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:55 pm to
All you rugged individualist just need to stop going to the doctor.

They don’t know shite right? So why go. I’m sure mom’s hip problem could have been resolved with prayer.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Many psychiatrists are mentally ill which is why they're interested in going into the field in the first place.


Many people are saying.....
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:59 pm to
They can’t hit their trip numbers without pushing scripts.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33279 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:09 pm to
Honestly, you sound like a fricking tool bag.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33279 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:10 pm to
Bingo.

You all seem to have a firm grasp of the human physiology, so stop going to MDs.

Seriously. You do you.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6670 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:16 pm to
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They don’t know shite right? So why go. I’m sure mom’s hip problem could have been resolved with prayer.


I think you missed a large portion of what I wrote.

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The people and specialists at UAB have been nothing short of angelic,


Maybe I should have bolded that part for you, or expanded upon it. She’s in great hands here as long as she stays away from the psychiatric dept, which was our own fault.

Doesn’t lessen the fact that this guy prescribed her psychotropic drugs “just in case”, which is bullshite.

Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1510 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:25 pm to
It seems many here have the insider knowledge or are themselves doctors.

Do doctors get kickbacks from the drug companies if the prescribe a certain amount of drugs?

Is it a CYA type of thing?

A lot of people are acting like everyone should know how to navigate the medical system and then in the next breath say how complex it is.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30973 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:27 pm to
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My wife recommended she speak with someone due to her emotions, but docs didn’t recommend it.

She’s cried a couple times per day, but she lost a couple of days due to “icu delirium”.

So y'all requested the psych eval for ICU psychosis? We don't usually do that. Sounds like y'all threw a fit and then when they did what you requested, you threw another fit. They were probably just trying to make y'all happy and get you to STFU.

I'd be more polite next time. Being an a-hole never works and some of us aren't ashamed to whoop a man's arse.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:28 pm to
De Nile is a river in N Arica and also a condition children get when their parents age. You thinking mom is just fine is not the metric I would use because you are way to close to the situation.

At least get a second opinion and stay out of the room. You not wanting mom on certain types of medication may not be in her best interest.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30973 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Do doctors get kickbacks from the drug companies if the prescribe a certain amount of drugs?

If they do, it's very rare and very illegal. I have a busy practice and am a huge target for reps. I've never been offered payment or have it implied. It used to happen in the old days, but we don't get shite except $7 lunches. No pens, no Viagra clocks. Nothing.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30973 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:39 pm to
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My wife thinks doctors can fix everything. I'm on the exact opposite end and feel doctors are a waste of my time and resources.


The answer is somewhere in between. The biggest challenge is finding a good doctor. It's waaaay harder than it used to be. Even then, most of us aren't taking new patients.

Don't just blame the doctors. Blame the patients and the system too. It's a business now. Gotta keep the customers happy. 99% of the customers want a pill or six. Maybe 1% will try non medicinal treatments for any ailment. I've been doing this shite for over 20 years. People don't want diet, exercise or any other lifestyle modification that takes any effort. They want a pill or a shot or whatever the local med spa is pushing. People just want to place blame on anyone but themselves. I'm not a f$%king life coach. I'm a doctor. Sounds like all these doctor haters can do fine with TikTok and some motivational play lists.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18950 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:40 pm to
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The truth is that a lot of modern medicine is an attempt to fix a lifetime’s worth of bad personal decisions by patients. What do you think contributes to hypertension, type 2 diabetes, AFib, coronary disease, obesity, sleep apnea?


So what bad decisions are behind hypertension and AFib due to a congenital heart defect? Being born?

I know some of you don't want to hear this but there are a lot of doctors that, while good intentioned, are really just in it for the pay check and to work as little as possible to get it. "Do no harm." to them means if they can kick a can down the road without denting it, they absolutely will. I had two heart surgeries, in 2021 and 2022, and they couldn't have been more different in terms of quality of care and and how the doctors and staff approached their duties. WK in Shreveport and Texas Heart Hospital in Plano where the latter is a truly world-class institution that worked hard NOT to give me a pacemaker unless it was absolutely necessary and the first tried to give me a medically unnecessary tracheostomy that could have resulted in any number of long term complications for my revovery.
Posted by WaydownSouth
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Member since Nov 2018
10557 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:43 pm to
Just because they prescribe stuff doesn't mean you have to take it.

They sent in 3 weeks of lovenox injections for my wife after her c-section

Never picked up.She was on a lifting restriction. Not a do not get out of bed restriction

ETA: I am not advocating to not take your meds. But if you question something, talk to your pharmacist, get a second opinion, etc.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 3:44 pm
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