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re: True cost of fueling an electric vehicle may be as much as $17.33 per gallon of gas
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:44 am to Wraytex
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:44 am to Wraytex
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So Koch is cutting the legs out from under their 100 million $ Standard Lithium investment.
Is it not a good investment considering the initiatives of the current administration? Why wouldn't you hedge your bets?
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Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:44 am to Wraytex
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:51 am to Death Before Disco
For the record, I’m not against EVs. You want to drive an EV, go ahead. I’ve looked at a few myself.
I’m against the government using my tax dollars to manipulate the EV market on the pretense of “saving the environment” when this is really just about money.
I’m against the government using my tax dollars to manipulate the EV market on the pretense of “saving the environment” when this is really just about money.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:03 am to Death Before Disco
Now do the true cost of gasoline without government subsidies
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:10 am to crazyLSUstudent
quote:der it go. How about you calculate the price, show your work and prove your own point, hoss.
Now do the true cost of gasoline without government subsidies
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:13 am to crazyLSUstudent
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Now do the true cost of gasoline without government subsidies
During 2022, the US had an average daily petroleum consumption of approximately 20.3 million barrels, totaling about 7.4 billion barrels of petroleum for the year.
In the United States, by some estimates taxpayers pay about $20 billion dollars every year to the fossil fuel industry.
So let’s say it’s $21 Billion in subsidies and the US uses 7 Billion barrels of oil per year. That means that each barrel of oil is subsidized to the tune of $3/barrel.
A barrel is 42 gallons, so roughly $0.07 of the cost of each gallon is subsidized by the government.
So taking into account subsidies the true cost of fueling an electric vehicle may be as much as $17.26 per gallon of gas. Sorry for this estimation error.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:23 am to White Bear
quote:Always nice to know I have a place to live rent-free. Of course as I understand it, the true cost is roughly $17,000/mo before subsidies.
billjamin korkstand et al where y’all at bebe??
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:25 am to crazyLSUstudent
quote:I’m good with ending subsidies for both EV and gasoline.
Now do the true cost of gasoline without government subsidies
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:34 am to Korkstand
quote:Id like to buy you for what your worth and sell you for what you think your worth.
Always nice to know I have a place to live rent-free.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:37 am to Tshiz
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Get this logic out of here. Democrats won’t believe it
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:39 am to White Bear
quote:If you think any of the math in this thing is remotely valid, you should probably avoid buying or selling anything.
Id like to buy you for what your worth and sell you for what you think your worth.
Also, *you're and *you're
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 8:47 am
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:46 am to Oilfieldbiology
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A barrel is 42 gallons, so roughly $0.07 of the cost of each gallon is subsidized by the government.
Eh, that is a direct cost no doubt.
The article adds shite like "socialized costs" on the electric grid to get that number inflated.
You would need to add those costs to the gallon price as well.
Like most of these type articles (both pro and con) they have to get a big number to suck you in. It's the same as using gallons vs bbl when talking about a spill.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:51 am to Death Before Disco
I saw something I had never seen before last week, a Tesla broke down on the shoulder of the road. It wasn't just broke down, it had been flagged, which means it had been there for a few days at least. I forget what the colors of the flags mean, but they dictate when the vehicle will be towed by the city/state if the owner doesn't make arrangements.
I don't go that direction very often, so I don't know what became of it. But, that's how I know that Teslas have broken into the mainstream.
I don't go that direction very often, so I don't know what became of it. But, that's how I know that Teslas have broken into the mainstream.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 8:54 am to Death Before Disco
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True cost of fueling an electric vehicle may be as much as $17.33 per gallon of gas
The article's numbers may be accurate, but I don't think they are all relevant.
For instance, grid stabilization is a cost that will be encumbered by utilities for just typical load growth. As subdivisions come up in rural areas, this is a concern. Surely, EV charging will make that come faster and sooner, but coming none-the-less. This has to be accounted for and not solely on EVs.
Is the full article taking in to account maintenance savings? (I didn't read it). Or even battery replacement costs inside of 10 years?
I think there are too many factors to make this number a blanket cost. And it may be too complicated to get accurate numbers, which is exactly how they want it.
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 8:56 am
Posted on 10/27/23 at 9:06 am to Death Before Disco
EVs are not sustainable.For people in large cities it can work ,but long haul with weight not a chance. Maybe as technology advances we can get to a position where they will be as efficient as a modern Internal Combustion Engine ,but that is definitely not in then near future. If we are looking at a future away from gas/diesel my money is on Hydrogen ,but they have challenges as well. Hybrids are also an option, but the globalist/global warming nuts are out of thier mind if they think gas/diesel is going anywhere anytime soon.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 9:08 am to Geauxldilocks
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Folks, this response tells me everything in the report is true.
And they say propaganda doesn't work on stupid people. Hats off for you proving them wrong.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 9:18 am to Death Before Disco
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The cost of producing electric vehicles (EVs) is far higher than the prices they are being sold for . Nearly $22 billion in federal and state subsidies and regulatory credits suppressed the retail price of EVs in 2021 by an average of almost $50,000 .
I'm never going to own an EV, I'll always drive a gas truck. I do think the Hummer truck is bad arse though. The performance stats on it is pretty impressive.
But I don't believe this stat. Or the 17+ a gallon either. Just statements from a non credible source and no proof of research.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 9:20 am to Death Before Disco
The OT has a hardon for EV's
I will never understand it.
I will never understand it.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 9:30 am to slinger1317
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The OT has a hardon for EV's
"That damn librul new technology ain't no good!"
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the oil and gas industry is vastly over represented here since that's basically all Louisiana is good for.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 9:34 am to slinger1317
quote:I know, and that’s sad.
The OT has a hardon for EV's I will never understand it.
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