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Trimming the Fat in Louisiana Higher Education (Aside from SUNO)

Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:19 pm
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:19 pm
4-Year Graduation Rates for 2-Year Colleges & 6-Year Graduation Rates for 4-Year Colleges

IF Louisiana does indeed reach a critical point with it's annual state budget projections, which appears to be almost inevitable barring some unforeseen alteration to the state constitution or some wisdom on the part of the state legislature to pursue other revenue streams (e.g. legalize marijuana, expand gambling, impose an excise tax, implement a sliding tax for gasoline in the wake of dips in the global petrochemical market), this state's leaders are going to have to make some unpopular decisions.

Nobody wants their alma mater or current institution shut down, but the fact is that not all higher education institutions are created equal. Some give more than they take, and others take MUCH more than they give.

I have decided to contrast how graduation rates for all public institutions stack up to their allotted state budgets in order to more accurately determine which colleges are just a drain on the state economy. I have emboldened the schools that, in my humble opinion, should require some immediate examination if the aforementioned apocalyptic scenario comes to fruition.

According to data compiled by the NCES Integrated Postsecondary Educaiton Data System (IPEDS) and the U.S. Department of Education, here are the 6-year graduation rates for 4-year public universities.

In addition, each institution's supplementary budget allocation total according to the Louisiana State Legislature 2015-16 Fiscal Year Projections are listed to the right of the respective graduation percentage.

4-Year Institutions with 6-Year Graduation Rates
LSU 61% $460,510,841
Louisiana Tech 46% $94,259,391
UL-Lafayette 42% $120,128,743
McNeese 35% $58,162,657
Southeastern 31% $103,256,518
Grambling 30% $43,307,769
Northwestern State 30% $66,002,923
Southern-B.R. 30% $62,651,413
UL-Monroe 30% $67,001,032
Nicholls State 29% 50,665,586
UNO 21% $93,893,502

LSU-Shreveport 20% $24,944,257
LSU-Alexandria 12% $14,660,369
Southern-New Orleans 8% $16,372,466


2-Year Institutions with 4-Year Graduation Rates
Louisiana Technical College-Florida Parishes 82%
Louisiana Technical College-Delta/Ouachita 62%
Louisiana Technical College-Sullivan 62%
Louisiana Technical College-Shelby Jackson 59%
Louisiana Technical College-Gulf Area 58%
Louisiana Technical College-Teche Area 56%
Louisiana Technical College-Ruston 47%
Louisiana Technical College-Northeast LA 46%
South Central Louisiana Technical College-Lafourche 46%
Northwest Louisiana Technical College-Natchitotoches 44%
South Central Louisiana Technical College-River Parishes 44%
Louisiana Technical College-Baton Rouge 42%
Louisiana Technical College-T.H. Harris 42%
Louisiana Technical College-Alexandria 40%
Louisiana Technical College-Shreveport/Bossier 39%
Louisiana Technical College-Hammond 38%
Louisiana Technical College-Lafayette 38%
Louisiana Technical College-Ascension 35%
Louisiana Technical College-Northwest LA 35%
Louisiana Technical College-Oakdale 35%
South Central Louisiana Technical College-Young Memorial 35%
Sowela Technical Community College 35% $12,485,320
Louisiana Technical College-Tallulah 26%
Nunez Community College 21% $7,586,165
Louisiana Technical College-West Jefferson 18%
Louisiana Technical College-Jefferson 14%
Southern University-Shreveport 14% $11,140,120
Bossier Parish Community College 10% $29,912,722
Louisiana Delta Community College 10% $16,316,152
L.E. Fletcher Technical Community College 9% $7,747,448
LSU-Eunice 8% $10,874,937
South Louisiana Community College 7% $25,532,384
River Parishes Community College 6% $8,184,305
Baton Rouge Community College 3% $37,562,101
Delgado Community College 2% $75,458,244


2015-16 Louisiana Fiscal Projections for Higher Education
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 7:31 pm
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27729 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:20 pm to
don't people who transfer to colleges with more credits elsewhere not count towards that institutions graduation rate or something? I'm pretty sure this is what happens to schools like UNO
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 7:21 pm
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22814 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:24 pm to
Pretty crazy that LSU, Tech and ULL are the only ones with graduation rates above 40%.
Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
6169 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:24 pm to
Graduating in 4 years is NF
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124968 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

I'm pretty sure this is what happens to schools like UNO


Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27729 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:28 pm to


i'm not saying it's not low, but i think because of the way some of the counting is done it's not AS low as it looks
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:28 pm to
They should stop measuring success by 4-year graduation rates. Fewer and fewer people graduate in four years.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:28 pm to
Louisiana also needs to trim the fat in general. Looks like disney world everywhere you go.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22814 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:29 pm to
Those are 6 year graduation rates.
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

Graduating in 4 years is NF


That's why it's a 6-year duration for four-year universities. A number of degree programs require at least nine semesters to complete.
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:30 pm to
I thought this was about the problem of fat coeds.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31624 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:30 pm to
How the hell does Southeastern have a $100m budget?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:31 pm to
quote:


Those are 6 year graduation rates


Oh, well then holy frick those are bad.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22814 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:31 pm to
seriously
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:34 pm to
When I was applying to UNO, I saw some pretty abhorrent things going on in there. People who didn't know how to work computers, could barely read, or couldn't come up with where they went to HS or their annual income were applying.

The secretary had to get up multiple times just to help people fill out applications. It took me about 10 minutes, and she said one lady had been there for 2 hours.

Those types of people absolutely should not be admitted to a college or university
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7974 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Delgado Community College 2% $75,458,244



:smdh:

Shut the MF down

This is the place where people go to test out college. If they like it they stay, if not, no loss to there pocket book.
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124968 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:39 pm to
The non-LSU schools have ridiculously low standards. A kid who makes it into ULL or UNO with an 18 isn't doing himself or the state any favors when he attends school for a semester or two and drops out. The ACT requirements should be 22-23+ across the board.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:40 pm to
3rd largest school in the state, right?
Posted by titmouse
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Member since May 2006
6679 posts
Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:40 pm to
Nm
This post was edited on 2/15/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 2/15/16 at 7:41 pm to
Hell no they are a team in LSU baseballs farm symstem
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